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California farmers, many of whom supported Trump, face a potential crisis as his immigration policies threaten mass deportations of undocumented workers, who make up at least half of the state’s 162,000 farm labor force.

Deportations could devastate agriculture, leading to labor shortages, unharvested crops, and rising food prices.

Farmers hope for solutions such as workforce legalization or expanded H-2A guest worker programs, though these have been criticized for exploitation risks.

Historical parallels to programs like “Operation Wetback” and the bracero system highlight possible labor and human rights challenges ahead.

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[–] ThatKomputerKat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Well, that sucks. Oh well.

[–] llama@midwest.social 1 points 1 hour ago

MAGA when they realize they are part of the collective America and are just as responsible for making it greater as anybody else.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Didn't we do this one already last time? It obviously didn't hurt enough to keep them from doing it again...

[–] lohky@lemmy.world 30 points 7 hours ago

Oh no, farmers lose the indentured servants they've been threatening with deportation for years!

Fucking morons. Enjoy getting your hands dirty.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Its just another fafo, nothing to see

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Lol.

Didn't he have to bail farmers out last time due to his horrendous policies?

And farmers didn't learn?

That's pretty stupid? Is our food safe?

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 hours ago

The bailouts ensured they didn't have to learn. The only thing better than selling a product for money is selling less product for the same amount of money because the government subsidized you to offset their shitty policies.

[–] invalid_name@lemm.ee 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago)

is our food safe

Yes, as long as the water holds. I have 200 lbs of rice and veggies in every window. Should supplement me enough to survive. Might be enough to share out.

Edit: oh shit, you meant supermarkets? Lol, no. That shit's gonna rot I'm the fields, unless we use slave labor.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

They are probably hoping for more work availability and higher pay for themselves if they don't have to compete.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 26 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Hello Fuck Around, have you met my friend Find Out?

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 17 points 13 hours ago

Sadly these rich farmers won't find out anything... They'll say there's shortages because of the deportations, whether there actually are or not, and will jack up prices to more than cover their profit at consumer expense. They fuck around, WE (and the ~~slaves~~ immigrant farm workers) get to do the finding out.

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago

Poor farmers they have to actually get their hands dirty. Poor guy.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

Fuck the farmers who voted for Mango Mussolini and I hope the damn ICE raids their shit. Mango Mussolini will fail to break former President Obama's, Deporter-in-Chief, deportation record.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

HR-4319 is right there.

[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 92 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My Uncle is a close friend of Jeff Landry (R-Louisiana) and voted for Trump.

Constantly would demonize illegal immigrants with all kinds of vitriolic accusations. Then would immediately brag that his hydro seeding company is making so much profit because he hires almost exclusively illegal immigrants and pays them peanuts under the table.

I've reported him to the state numerous times but nothing ever gets done (remember who he is close friends with now...)

I hope he goes out of business. I hope it ruins him.

[–] Bremmy@lemmy.ml 15 points 13 hours ago

Thank you for trying, I hope it ruins him too

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 125 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Still wild the conversation NEVER turns to the people employing undocumented workers and instead demonize the workers themselves.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 95 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The point isn't to actually deport these people, it's to give their employers and landlords a powerful tool to exploit them and prevent them from benefitting from any social services.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 20 points 22 hours ago

When you put it like that, it sounds like slavery with extra steps.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Yep, the more precarious their legal status, the more compliant they are. This is all about suppressing labour rights.

That's why the Republican playbook regarding the border was always just talk, and Trump somehow doesn't get that it was always a scam to get the votes of the racists without ever seriously planning to follow through.

If all farm workers were legally in the US, they'd form unions right off the bat, especially since a strike during harvest season is going to fuck over a farmer financially within days.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 14 hours ago

But pushing them too far could result in them just starting some fires and leaving to go cross the border back home. Sure they left for a reason but pushing them too far is going to make them leave for one.

[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

Not only does it cause compliance it creates a perfect setup for exploitation, extortion, and trafficking.

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[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But, but I though undocumented immigrants were lazy?! How can they both be lazy and take all the jobs?!

[–] Deello@lemm.ee 23 points 19 hours ago

Schrodinger's immigrant

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 25 points 1 day ago

Don't forget they're also criminal murderer drug dealers. They take all the jobs, and steal everything, sell everyone drugs, then kill them all, but they're lazy about it. /s

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (25 children)

California farmers are some of the most ignorant people I have ever encountered.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They don't even remember that the leopards ate their faces last time...

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