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I for one have stopped posting any content to lemmy.ml communities.

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[–] _lunar@lemmy.ml 5 points 14 hours ago

yes, please continue this trend isolating yourselves from the fediverse

lemmy.world is the most toxic instance and every insanely bloodthirsty, racist, misogynistic, or otherwise vile take seems to come from your lot

[–] hierophant_nihilant@reddthat.com 45 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

Listen. Just fuckin listen to me. The moment I joined lemmy every enthusiast was singing praise to the fediverse and how it's easy to maintain the freedom of speach and yada yada yada. What it turned out to be is just constant quarrels between instances, defederations and crap like that while lemmy still fucking struggles to even become a mere shadow of reddit. I fucking hate reddit, I think spez should be covered in fire ants, but by god, looking at how insufferable most vocal lemmy users are, I may get back to reddit, probably as many other lemmy users already did.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 27 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

It is easy to maintain freedom of speech on Lemmy. The idea that your instance can defederate from instances like Lemmy.ml, but everyone on Lemmy.ml can continue to post on their own server, and federate with any other given server by default is the entire point of federation and proof of concept that the fediverse is great for free speech. You’re under the impression that all Lemmy servers are supposed to be part of one big whole, but that’s not what the fediverse is for.

You have to understand that “free speech” is a negative freedom and it doesn’t mean everyone has to listen to you. It just means nobody can force you not to speak.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 7 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I wonder how long until .world defederates from .world.

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

.world is just where right-wingers go to pretend they're not right-wingers.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 5 points 15 hours ago
[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

just constant quarrels between instances, defederations and crap like that

Sounds like you picked the wrong instance. The one I use doesn't defederate, from anyone. So when some drama about "should we defederate from some server because they are a big corp/because they are right wing/because they are tankies/because they allow loli/whatever, I basically get to watch and laugh knowing it's not going to effect me.

[–] falcunculus@jlai.lu 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If you're unhappy why stay? Personally I'm happy with the Lemmyverse as it stands now — certainly happier than in the corporate lowest-common-denominator that is now Reddit.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 9 points 17 hours ago

same logic as "if u hate america then leave".

some people want to do their part to make the site (or country) better. they cant do that by giving up and going back to reddit. lemmy is great....but it could be better.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

The whole point of federation seems to be the ability to have villain instances that we all fight about. PVP social media

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 6 points 15 hours ago

On the upside, every time a .world community has these anti-federation wreckers cry and scream because they got banned for some repugnant views (but by design of federation they can just join a new site) I just block the whole community.

Might not be defederation but you're only turning these Comms into lame Reddit discourse farms that does the opposite of your evil plan.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like I'm missing something important here as a simple fediverse user. I don't really care about the politics, I just made an account during the first large Reddit exodus and choose an instance I thought would persist. I also made a second account on kbin.social, but it looks pretty dead as a project.

I never noticed anything described in this thread, but I'm subbed to many communities across the fediverse...

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[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago

ml makes sense on the fediverse. That's kind of the whole point. Same with Linux.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 20 points 23 hours ago (8 children)

https://sh.itjust.works/c/meanwhileongrad

Here is a nice community that keeps track of their bullshit

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

/r/shitshitredditsayssays

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

I like the idea of growing non-ml community, however, I wish larger instances do not block ML. Otherwise, they would just move to lemmy.ee or lemmy.one, just like how they moved from hexbear and grad to ml.

It is great tankies got their own place where they can be happy, but I really don't want to interact with them. I am emotional about issues they engage in, and emotional me is usually not the nicest version of myself.

Social media is one of the few ways I can relax for couple hours per week outside of my job, and I really don't want my social media experience to go full investigative journalism.

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