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[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

J'ai pris un moment pour comprendre à cause des couleurs.

à force de laisser les médias se faire racheter par le capital de droite on glisse doucement mais très sûrement dans cette direction.

Mais bon comme dit le mémé au moins on aura plus à entendre ces gauchistes woke /s

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Bullshit.

Yeah, sure,in the US, the center has been moving right steadily for decades, and that's an issue

However, all these types "defending the left" and "doing the right thing" apparently forgot that we live in a real world where things just aren't that fucking simple.

There was a lot of criticism to be said about kamela, but she would have been day where trump will be night.

Say good bye to your left leaning opinions now, I wonder if you're even allowed to have them, a year from now. People like you are the reason why the entire world got worse, and the US will go off a cliff where it may never be able to recover from. Say good bye to Palestine, Ukraine is fucked. But congratulations, you "did the right thing" and stoof your ground and didn't vote for Harris, hou should be proud of yourself.

[–] TGhost@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

But congratulations, you “did the right thing” and stoof your ground and didn’t vote for Harris, hou should be proud of yourself.

I made this post on a French community, to talk about our country, what happened for us during this summer. Not at all for the us election.
Indeed, I didn't vote for Harris, but I'm French again, living in France so, I couldn't you see.

Say good bye to Palestine, Ukraine is fucked.

I'm really afraid about this, in fact.

Say good bye to your left leaning opinions now, I wonder if you’re even allowed to have them,

Oh you don't know me, but I'm far from the right ideas, and from the ML too...

Now, if you want to discuss, take a glance on what happened to our country who massively voted for the left (nouveau front populaire), and the deny of democracy we got just after, thanks to Macron. Spoiler : He jus put far right instead at the government.. With theses kinds of arguments(these of the pic).

So with all of this,
I just don't talk about the US, and I'm sad for you, who got trump as president.

Now go drink maybe instead giving your rage to the wrong person.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Where's the straw man?

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Agreed that the left had shifted right. Don't agree that lesser evil voting is the reason for this.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

I'm with you on that. It's hard to blame lesser evil voting when the greater evil is the one who wins the election.

If the lesser evil was winning and yet still shifting right to compromise, that would be the problem the comic describes. But in reality, the lesser evil is retreating right because that's the side that is getting more votes.

[–] TGhost@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

hmmm,
Im guilty to avoid vote sometimes just because of this personnaly,

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In America (or anywhere else with a two party system), this can be understood through the Ratchet Effect.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think this is actually understood fairly well which is why rhetoric like “both sides are the same” comes about because neither option moves things the other direction. FPTP two party system sucks.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The two party system is an inevitable result of a first past the post electoral system. Ranked choice/preference voting gives us a way out of this trap. https://truethevote.org

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'd like to believe it's fairly well understood, but tell it to the average liberal and you'll get a lecture on Horseshoe Theory.

[–] TGhost@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Thanks, TIL,

[–] _____@lemm.ee 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I like it but I wish the enlightened centrist had more dumb shit to say, they have so many fantastic lines such as "there's no real difference between right or left"

[–] TGhost@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

they are both evils, lmao, Humanists idea vs fascists idea, lawl,

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

We're forced to play a rigged game. The only way to stop it requires too much risk/sacrifice. It's easier to just survive. Not saying it's right or wrong but the question we should ask ourselves is "what am I willing to give up to break this game?"

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Pretty sure the 'enlightened centrist' in this meme represents the 'leftwing' party, does it not? That's the party that 'compromises' when the Overton window moves right.

Everybody on the actual left is represented by the crying figure.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The road to hell is paved with "lesser evils".

[–] TGhost@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

and with good intents 😪

[–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Tghost qui post sur une commu francophone et les anglophones pensent que ça parle des US épisode 314

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Les Anglophones qui viennent sur jlai.lu c'est vraiment un running gag

[–] Melyssandre@jlai.lu 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

im really sorry ^^"
En plus oulala, ca vient l'instance du diable 😅,
Mais je trouve que cela resume exactement la situation francaise egalement, malheureusement.

HS : d'ou le fait que je veuille pas etre defedere, tout n'est pas a jeter, apres chacun.e sa patience et la ou iel est pret a "s'investir"

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 2 points 2 days ago

Tkt c'est pas ta faute haha

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[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Ouais enfin le problème c'est surtout que personne se bouge tant que pa situation est pas critique. Dans une situation comme ça, à moins d'aller en full révolution y'a pas grand chose d'autre à faire que limiter les dégats.

L'idéal étant d'avoir un système de vote qui n'est pas purement binaire hein, mais s'il l'est, le "je préfère rien faire et laisser les autres décider" aide pas vraiment.

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