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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Devil's advocate. The "owner" of peanut was taking in wild animals without permits. Never bothered to even try.. They find peanut who bites an officer. Now that officer can just take this weird dude's word that peanut is not rabid, or he can wait till he's symptomatic, at which point he's dead. The only fast way to test for rabies is with brain tissue. It was either kill peanut or risk the officer drying of rabies.

Blame it all on the people who took in a wild animal without telling anyone and then exploited him for views

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't they usually just administer the rabies vaccine anyways just in case? As I understand it, even with the testing they'll give the first dose because there can be bad effects if they wait for the test results before then.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is the rabies vaccine still extremely painful and consisting of like 30 shots? Or is that outdated?

The squirrel was gonna die no matter what. It couldn't be sent back to the idiot taking wild animals and running an unlicensed online zoo. And it couldn't be returned to the wild. And it had already shown signs of aggression, so it probably wouldn't be accepted by a zoo.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

My cousin had one a few years back and said it was very painful. He didn't end up needing more than one shot because the bat that got him tested negative, so I'm not sure how many doses it was in total.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (24 children)

I mean owning wild animals without a permit is a crime too. Dude wasn't even taking Peanut to the vet cause he, get this, didn't have a permit.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That was a shit story and that department was 100% out of line. but I don't think it was the police doing anything but helping a department with a search warrant.

At first I felt bad then I realized the guy had that squirrel for 7 years and never got a permit or anything. Bro come on how do you not get the paperwork for an animal that you make a living off.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The department wasn't out of line. You can't just take in wild animals without a permit or telling anyone. And once peanut bit the officer they had no choice. Brain tissue is the only fast way to test for rabies. It was that or risk the officer drying. I sure wouldn't take the "owner's" word and risk my life.

Anyways, peanuts owner was a shit head who got peanut killed

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They were fine to take the pets but they should have been careful not to get bit. They should have informed the person before killing his pet. But you're right ultimately I don't have much sympathy for the guy since he had plenty of time to sort this out and not let it get to this point.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

NOT get bit? Why didn't they think of that!?

[–] BonerMan@ani.social -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The question is why you need a permit in the first place for a animal that lives close to humans anyway, the raccoon thing I was made aware of is another story but would also have been better handled with talking to him.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its an adopted wild animal it needs to be registered and vaccinated that makes sense to me. But yeah it's insane how poorly they treated the situation. Idk how they can justify the process.

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah the vaccination part is fine, the registration is questionable but OK and whatever they did was beyond stupid.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I don't think the registration requirement is questionable. If the city needs to check for a gas or water main or sewage leak they're going to want to know if they're going to run into any wild animals. Also, if they're not registered, how will they check with your vet to make sure ongoing/regular vaccinations are given (if/when required).

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Because it is a wild animal that can carry rabies.

The way it played out is the squirrel bit someone. The only way to check for rabies and be 100% certain is to cut the brain. Which obviously doesn't lead to the animal being alive anymore. But at the end of the day, a squirrel's life is less important than that of a human, so it had to be done.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

Squirrels aren't a typical vector for rabies. There was no indication the squirrel was exposed to a rabies vector, like a bat, any more than a household pet or human.

It bit a NY cop though, that's what happened.

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Humans can also technically carry rabies.

And also you can begin the immunization for rabies even if you don't know if the animal has it or not, its the same as getting it as a preventative measure, wich should be required for animal control in general anyway.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So what that humans can carry rabies? Do you see a difference between a human and a squirrel or not?

[–] BonerMan@ani.social -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Uhhhhh. Actually in this specific case, NO.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then there is no point in talking to you. What they did was 100% justified and that's the end of the discussion.

[–] BonerMan@ani.social -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you are mentally deranged and can't handle facts.

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pot meet kettle.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That'd imply that my take is equally unhinged when it's the default thing that happens when an animal bites someone and might have been carrying rabies.

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

True, I felt it was fitting for someone claiming someone else is what they are, but I agree your take isn't insane.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Squirrels tend not to be vectors for rabies. I got shredded by a squirrel my cat brought in that I thought was dead. The doctor shrugged me off and sent me home with some antibiotics.

Squirrels don't consume rabies vectors, so they'd have to be bitten by a bat with rabies first if they have it.

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 4 points 2 days ago

Exactly and you can Also just get the treatment for rabies without the need to know if there even was exposure, its just a immunization with 3 vaccines and for a animal control officer, THEY SHOULD HAVE THAT BEFORE STARTING TO WORK!

[–] ech@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

If the rest of those turned their crimes into social media hustles, the cops would have a much easier time.

[–] Phineaz@feddit.org 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Context?

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Guy had a squirrel that he cared for after it was injured and kept as a pet because when he (allegedly) tried to release the squirrel it turned up at his door sometime later injured again. (Brief recollection the story is online)

Anyway the city found out and confiscated (right word?) it because owning wild animals is illegal and euthanized it to test for rabies.

Edit: as other have pointed out, the squirell also apparently bit a police officer.

Yes, euthanization is necessary to test for rabies because rabies is freakishly good at staying under the radar until it's too late. That's why you need to keep your pets' shots up to date.

[–] Tahl_eN@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Additional context: the squirrel bit one of the officers that was confiscating it. So they absolutely needed to test for rabies.

Don't post your crimes to social media folks. Or do, I'm not a cop.

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[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

You miss the fact that they confiscated it, then it bit someone, then they tested it for rabies.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

kept as a pet because when he (allegedly) tried to release the squirrel it turned up at his door sometime later injured again

My friend's dad cut a tree down in their yard that had a squirrel nest in it. He didn't know about the nest when he cut the tree down. Unfortunately the mom died when the tree was felled, and the babies couldn't survive on their own. My friend's family bottle fed the babies and raised them until they were old enough to be released. The squirrels never left. They'd run around in the trees and stuff, but they'd come back to the house, wanting to go to tier little beds at night, and get free nuts and stuff. They'd also tear around the house if the weather wasn't good that day. So, I completely believe that the squirrel came back after being released.

Edit: before the NYC animal department gets any bright ideas, this was 20 years ago, and in a completely different State.

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