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I was gonna title this "And here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price you have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice" and then write "Stuck inside of America with the fascism blues again" here, but I'm not sure if that comes off like gloating and that's honestly the last thing I want to do this morning.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 15 points 2 days ago (20 children)

I don't even care whether your attitude is, "Oh no, we fucked up," or you go with option B which is what you're saying. If you have to wonder whether you're gloating or not, then fuck you.

[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 21 points 2 days ago

Democrats can maybe not run a totally dogshit campaign?

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 days ago

What's the alternative? Democrats do not fail, they can only be failed?

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There will be a lot of this. Same thing happened with Hillary. I'm not American, I don't need to discriminate here, I'm writing off all of the US.

But if you're there... yeah, that anger seems justified. When the shit that's about to happen happens don't let them hide behind the blame game.

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[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Everyone from Sanders to Dick fucking Cheney endorsed Harris. Anyone who was paying any attention and wasn't a literal fascist voted for her. The direction of the swing seems irrelevant.

The swing fell short because it's not so much about direction than strength. Macron in 2017 ran the most "hard center" presidential campaign imaginable. Difference is it worked, not because his centrist program was particularly novel but in large part because he is a very charismatic figure and managed to create a voting base of hopefuls for himself. The same can broadly be argued about Obama (whose first act as president was to essentially absolve the previous administration and Wall St of their many sins in case anyone forgot how moderate he was).

Harris ran on a platform of... "I'm not him". Which to any reasonable person is an obvious "yeah OK", but unfortunately most Americans are apathetic cretins who will refuse to move their asses to a polling station if the guy on the telly doesn't promise them a blowie at the voting booth. And the Democrat establishment is simultaneously too big to fail and incapable of producing an actually charismatic leader.

Well, all that and the obvious election interference from Musk, Putin, and the ontological inability of traditional media not to platform literal fascists.

[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago

“How did you vote on your California ballot with several highly contentious ballot measures, Madam Vice President”

“I will not speak on this 5 days before the election.”

Leftists have been telling all the libs exactly what this path would lead to.

Looks like liberals ushered in a fascist regime, again. Funny how that always happens.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Harris ran on a platform of... "I'm not him".

Which was incredibly stupid considering how popular he is.

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