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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 30 points 23 hours ago

Memes circulating with this dude right now, even if positioning him as a chud, are a way to launder this dude as just a legit money guy. Sure, he has some basic, broad financial advice you can consider if you can see through all the Jesus and have no other options, but more than anything else, he's a vile human being.

Eat religious shit dave ramsey.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 12 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (7 children)

It drives me crazy when i get spam that says they can save me money on my car insurance

O rly? How you gonna beat $0?

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

I told one of these spam callers that my license has been legally revoked. It has been almost 15 years since I last got one of those calls. They used to be something that happened, at least, a few times per day.

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[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

I have never owned a car that did not already belong to 2 family members prior. Surprisingly, I have yet to be kicked down the social ladder and sweep dung for a living.

Also, used cars are like 3000€ here. I have no idea of used cars, but at some point having them be serviced every year should be cheaper than monthly payments, right?

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

sure, maybe. but FUCK Dave Ramsey.

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[–] OrkneyKomodo@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

I've never understood buying a car on credit. My car's 17 years old now. Bought it when it was 8 years old. Insurance is €390/yr.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

That's really exorbitant insurance. I don't know where he lives or what is situation is but $350 a month is insane.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

You can buy a very nice e-bike every year with that money.

I was unemployed for most of last year and let my insurance lapse. I'd be lucky if anyone would insure me for $350/month.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 137 points 1 day ago (14 children)
[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago

broken clock tho

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Spoken like someone who's long since stopped worrying about having to commute without mass transit available.

If mass transit is available and reasonable then yeah, go off. But otherwise please stop blaming the victims of Capitalism.

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[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (6 children)

What commonly goes unsaid in these conversations of insurance cost is the immediate disputes that occur with the provider.

Why am I paying tens of thousands a year to engage in an argument when making a claim?

[–] Humana@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I was once rear ended at a red light. I was knocked unconscious and the driver drove off. A few kind witnesses called police who took a report. They got half his plate imprinted on my bumper, but never tracked him down. I had State Farm, and I was even paying extra for the "uninsured driver coverage". They said they couldn't cover it because until they had another driver's information I was automatically at fault, even with the police report and witness accounts. They said it didn't count as uninsured driver because it's possible the guy had insurance. I was flabbergasted.

In the end I had a concussion and needed to take time off work for recovery and my short term disability insurance ended up suing State Farm because they didn't want to pay for my medical treatment. State Farm agreed to cover medical care but only if it was recorded as my fault and I paid my deductible. In anger I tried to switch insurance companies but found out they have a shared database and since it was recorded as a hit and run my fault, nobody else would take me. And State Farm jacked my rate up 30%...

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I realised in a similar, though less detrimental, encounter that true insurance comes in the form of dash cameras. For the equivalent of an insurance payment or two, a high fidelity video of the entire vehicle surroundings can be had.

Honestly though, with a few witnesses and half a plate, it's a surprise they couldn't find the car that drove into you. Decerning the colour, and style of car, surely it'd be only a handful of vehicles matching both the description and the numbers.

I'm sorry that happened to you.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 23 points 1 day ago

That would require a cop to do more than the bate minimum, so its just not gonna happen.

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[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You are not kidding!

I got a motorcycle and paid for insurance. When someone stole my bike and police caught the guy and put it in the impound, my scummy ass insurance called me to go see if it's okay? Like bro, that's your job.

Then they said if I was willing to sign a contract that the bike was fine without allowing me to see it. I said no.

Finally they gave up and wrote me a check for the cost of the bike.

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[–] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 1 day ago (16 children)

In this land of legalised extortion in the form of insurance my friend who is in his mid 30s and been driving over a decade with no claims has to pay Β£700 per month.

My mum wanted to add my sister (again mid thirties and driving for nearly 20 years now with no claims) to her policy so she could borrow her car for a week and then maybe use the car once a month if that and they wanted an additional Β£1000 a month for the privaledge.

Fucking scum.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 19 hours ago

I had no idea my insurance is so much. But it is a lot. If I think about it I'll get angry.

You can take defensive driving courses to lower it though.

[–] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Assuming you begin investing at the age of 20 and invest $554 per month for 45 years at a 6% growth rate, you would yield 1.4 million. Definitely not MILLIONS.

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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Millions? I don't think so. There is no investment that would turn $30K or whatever into millions that was safe enough to work for the majority of people. But it would be a significant help.

That being said, for most people, the amount you'd spend to live in a place where a car isn't needed or constantly paying for ride share or taxis greatly exceeds the amount you'd save by not having a car for the vast majority of people, and that's not even getting into the ableism issue.

And sure we could get into buying a cheaper, used car or whatever, but in the long term the maintenance costs, having to buy another car sooner, and other financial risks to cars outside of warrantee over a lifetime will add up similarly unless you're really lucky or can repair your own cars.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

and that’s not even getting into the ableism issue.

Infrastructure that requires people to drive is far more ableist than the inverse. As many people with a disability can't drive at all (or driving is a significant challenge).

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The whole, where do you live thing is super important. The last time we moved my wife and I were very adamant about a specific maximum commute length in car, or a length by transit. And getting somewhere to live that was easy to commute from. We compared the price including mass transit commute at the max distance to anything we were getting closer with the commute included from there too.

The differences were absolutely significant. Many places were cheaper to live an hour away, even with car payments, insurance, and gas. That's absolutely ridiculous and part of so many problems from climate change to motor vehicle deaths.

We need to enforce mixed development, the people who work in an area need to be able to afford living in that area. Pushing the workers out should not be acceptable.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 37 points 1 day ago (8 children)

some people care DEEPLY about what kind of car everyone drives. that's literally why overpriced cars even exist

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