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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

So far tools like Win10Privacy have been exemplary in allowing me to rip all manner of spyware, adware, and annoyances out of Windows.

I’m sure that Copilot will meet the same fate with one external debloating utility of another. Even if I need to replace the Explorer-based shell with a third-party one.

Literally everyone that "threatens" to "switch to linux":

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For anyone who still needs Windows, I recommend you try the Windows 10 LTSC IoT variant.

It has support until 2032 and has all the bloatware ripped out. It's extremely good.

They even have a Windows 11 version. That's also really good. But I'm guessing if you've avoided upgrading to Windows 11, you'd prefer to stay on 10 anyway.

[–] forgotaboutlaye@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Is there an easy way to buy this as an individual?

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

They typically don't sell licenses to individuals and even if you were able to buy one for a reseller, it would be like $500.

There are other ways of activating it, but they are a gray area, and I'd only be willing to describe them to you through DM

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't reddit, you don't need to worry about being brigaded or cancelled for talking about piracy or J-Walking

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[–] realitista@lemm.ee -2 points 11 hours ago

Meh, who cares just keep running it if you feel like it. A problem for organizations, maybe, but not individuals.

[–] ChuckEffingNorris@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I keep seeing these " time to move to Linux" threads. For my work I have to use super proprietary software which I know for a fact is Windows only. Not only that it's GPU intensive CPU intensive and niche. I'm sure there's a way to run Windows within Linux but I can only imagine the pain in trying to get proprietary shite to work.

On top of that I need specific CAD software, Photoshop and Illustrator. I don't think any of these daily used programs support Linux.

From the outside, Linux just seems like an absolute ball ache to get working with all of the things I currently do without even thinking about it.

I'd love to do it. Not sure it's going to work. Am I wrong?

[–] sue_me_please@awful.systems 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Different OSes for different use cases. You have a job to do. Just use Windows.

If you want to use Linux, use it on your own machines on your own time.

That said, there are a few things you can do if you really want to use Linux:

  1. Test if the app works on Wine, Proton, etc. Even GPU accelerated apps can work, depending on the software/driver stack.
  2. Run a Windows VM and pass-through a GPU. That way you'll get native performance on the app that's GPU intensive. Use KVM and the CPU overhead will be negligible.
  3. If you're doing 3D modeling/rendering, SFX, video editing or ML/AI, there are a lot of options on Linux. Some options that exist in Windows also have Linux versions.
[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago

If your work requires Windows, then use Windows. Switch to Linux when everything you need is available on it. If alternatives don't exist, then that's it.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 29 points 1 day ago (5 children)

No, you are right. In your situation, Linux is just not an option - yet.

I think these posts are meant for the 95% of people that use a browser, and maaaaybe a mail client on their PC.

Photoshop/Illustrator will only ever get ported if enough people have already made the move that Adobe can't afford to ignore Linux any longer.

That being said, if those requirements are just for work, what's keeping you on Windows on your private devices?

[–] ChuckEffingNorris@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's a fair point, other than I do need to work at home on occasion!

I'll have a good think about it.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 125 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I am quite disappointed. Given the title, I was like, wow, a generalist PC gaming website recommending people to switch to Linux! Read the article, Linux is not mentioned at all, I don't even know why it is in the title. Getting a few clicks from hippies?

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 24 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Like radically insidious man.

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[–] doctortran@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I don't think it's making a serious suggestion. It's using "learn Linux" as an ironic punchline, like "just move to Canada". It's a kind of backhand.

This guy has seemingly never written about Linux before. No other articles mention it that I can find, except one where he talks about Linux overtaking Apple in gaming, where he talks mostly about Apple.

[–] MvPts@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Great perspective!

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[–] doctortran@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Last month, for the first time, Windows 11 was a more popular OS than Windows 10 in the Steam Hardware Survey. Of course, this is an imprecise science as people have to opt in to having their machines measured but it's a sign of wider adoption. Windows 8, on the other hand, never made it big enough to do the same in its lifespan. Windows 7 was a very popular OS and adoption even to Windows 10 was fairly slow initially, partially down to that skepticism.

You can't cite the jump from 7 to 8 or 7 to 10 without also remarking on the fact users had far more.control over updates back then.

Yeah, Windows 11 adoption is up, because most people don't have a choice, or they didn't care enough to stop it happening automatically, and don't know how to roll it back. That doesn't translate to approval.

At a certain point, adoption rates just don't matter anymore because increasingly the user doesn't have a choice anymore.

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[–] proceduralnightshade@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's Windows 10 LTSC, which gets security updates til 2027. And IoT Enterprise LTSC, which gets security updates until 2032.

"But should you even use those versions?!? They are not meant to be installed on a desktop PC/laptop" - idk, it's either this or Win11.

For more info on how to install, check https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links

[–] grubbyweasel@sh.itjust.works 0 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Guys there's countless tools out there for removing bloat and telemetry and tweaking the UI. it takes like fifteen minutes to make windows 11 completely acceptable for daily usage

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[–] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

For what its worth: I've been running enterprise since 2015 (when it was called LTSB) then switched to LTSC IoT around 2021. Its fantastic and doesn't have all the Candy Crush and other bullshit. I highly recommend.

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[–] n3cr0@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

Thanks for this unqualified headline.

[–] nick@midwest.social 27 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Pirate a copy of windows 11 N. It’s the eu version that doesn’t have any of this dogshit in it.

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[–] Golfnbrew@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

Serious question : My desktop is incompatible with Win11, I run Win10, and I use it for web browsing, Excel, and a little Word processing. Nothing else. Can't i just continue on as is? Not a gamer, not a heavy user...

[–] toddestan@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're not getting anymore security patches, but as long as you keep your browser up to date and generally be careful about what you download and run (as you should already be doing) you'll likely be just fine.

I'd estimate sometime around 2029 or so the major browsers as well as security software will start dropping support for Windows 10 and at that point you may need to start thinking about moving to something else if you haven't already done so.

[–] Golfnbrew@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I can probably see a new computer by then... (my car hits 20 next year...) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

The problem with that is that vulnerability will be found and used. Since it's connected to the internet it will be exposed to attackers and could be infected with botnet viruses/tools and used to attack other computer/services.

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

you'll most likely be fine, there still exists people who use Windows 7 for that workflow. You have to be more aware of vulnerabilities that could be found on your operating system though; and over time more and more software might drop support for your OS (realistically, this will be more noticable when Windows 12-13 gets released) so you might not be able to use latest Office version's features.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

the problem is so many office workplaces use windows and google, so unless you want to bring your own computer and buy a wifi hotspot to take to work, you're stuck on windows and google

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My work all takes place in a Linux environment. Unfortunately, my workplace still mandates using Windows.

I don't require any Windows software for work. My boss just insists that I must use a Windows laptop, then do all of my work either in WSL or a traditional VM setup.

It's baffling.

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[–] SteelCorrelation@lemmy.one 19 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I’m a government contractor, so I’m stuck on Windows and Microsoft products for work. It really sucks, but the government ain’t switching to Linux anytime soon… if ever. At least Windows 11 Enterprise (or Government, whatever) should have a lot of this shit stripped out. I hope.

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