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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 11 points 9 months ago

It's not quite true that we "never" hear about Ukraine's far right. We hear about them fairly regularly in fact - from Putin's apologists and sycophants.

[–] rockmeat@feddit.org 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is clearly illustrated by vast data on immigrant crime and jihad from across Western Europe including rape gangs and rates of non-indigenous violence in England, Islamic terrorism in France, gang violence in Sweden, and rates of rape and stabbings in Germany. Ayaan Hirsi Ali has just published a concise overview of important data around this very bleak situation. And, importantly for Irish readers concerned about reckless immigration policies, Ayaan’s work mirrors the sobering picture painted by Peter Ryan: “How Soaring Crime Changed Immigration Policy in Denmark and Sweden”.

Thomas Fazi, who is concerned about the far-right, is using far-right talking points while citing right-wing outlets you've never heard of.

We see this trend across Europe, where the spectre of a “far right” populist revolt has sent de-nationalised elites into a panic. This was recently epitomised by the hysteria around the AfD’s success in eastern Germany. Something similar happened in France with Le Pen’s successes, and to a lesser degree in Portugal with Chega, Spain with Vox, Sweden with Sweden Democrats, Italy with Meloni and so on.

Let me get this straight, Thomas: we should be worried about the Nazis in the national armed forces (shocking, I know) of Ukraine, while the reaction to the AfD, a party with nazi leaders, chanting nazi slogans and spouting NSDAP apologia, which wants to deport undesirables (including German citizens), is overblown?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thomas Fazi, who is concerned about the far-right, is using far-right talking points while citing right-wing outlets you’ve never heard of.

You’re right, that’s actually pretty awful and sounds like BS.

Not to imply that all other European neo-Nazis are teddy bears by any stretch, but there are concrete reasons to take the Ukrainian neo-nazis very seriously.

[–] Chuymatt@beehaw.org 4 points 9 months ago

As seriously as all violent right - wing movements- very.

But it has been recently presented as an either or position: oppose Russian aggression OR oppose Neo-nazis in Ukraine. We can easily do both.