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    [–] LaggyKar@programming.dev 132 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    This is very outdated.

    • Catalyst doesn't exist anymore, it was replaced by AMDGPU-PRO years ago.
    • The Radeon Mesa driver (radeonsi) is generally faster than AMDGPU-PRO OpenGL for gaming, and has been for years. On the Vulkan side, performance is usually fairly close between the Mesa driver (RADV), AMDVLK and AMDGPU-PRO.
    • AMDGPU is just the kernel driver, which is used by both the Mesa drivers and AMDGPU-PRO, so why is it listed separately?
    • For Intel, I think the hardware was holding it back more than the driver, especially since they've replaced the classic Mesa drivers with Gallium based ones. But now they're doing the Arc stuff.
    • I don't know if I would say that Nvidia proprietary runs well
    [–] local_intruder@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    So as a RX580 user I should be using Radeon Mesa driver?

    [–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

    Yes. The default out of the box experience is pretty great with AMD + any mainstream distro.

    [–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 94 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Proprietary nvidia driving well?

    I'm currently considering buying an AMD GPU just so that I don't constantly have to troubleshoot the nvidia driver when I want to game.

    [–] BloodSlut@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

    Proprietary NVIDIA should be "Randomly slams the breaks and turns off the car on the freeway"

    [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

    Also nvidia doesn't support so many APIs, so so things like loading screens break, it also makes it impossible to report kernel issues due to a tainted kernel

    [–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    This is definitely an ancient meme. The radeon kernel driver has been out of use since GCN 2.

    Also AMDGPU is generally the same speed or slightly faster than AMDGPU-PRO. And thankfully, fglrx is long dead.

    [–] mojo@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago

    Nvidia drives well

    [FAILED] Failed to start nvidia-powerd service

    [–] woodgen@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    The fact that 4 of these drivers are part of mesa and OP doesn't know the name of the first one (probably r600, as radeonsi and radv are what is meant by amdgpu) shows the questionabilty of this chart. Also OP never tried to run Wayland or KMS on NVIDIA. Granny can drive better than that.

    [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

    Honestly OP reposted this from Reddit. So its a double whammy because they had the opprotunity to check.

    [–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I'm going team red because I'm not booting into Windows just to play Starfield. Not having open source video drivers is a recipe to get massively fucked later on down the line as the enshitification of computers continue.

    [–] spikederailed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

    Im still on team green(got what i could during gpu shortage). It will be AMD in the future, im just trying to get my moneys worth from this 3080.

    [–] bastion@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

    If all goes well, I should be getting my first big (non-integrated) AM's gfx soon.

    [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Arc will have the same "success" as Optane and Xeon Phi.

    [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Idk, I have two and love them. Plex is low power and transcoding like a mofo and gaming is cheap and acceptable.

    [–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Not saying they aren't good. Optane and Xeon Phi were actually good. What I'm saying is that knowing Intel's history, there's a very high chance they'll also abandon their GPU division just like they did with Optane and Xeon Phi.

    [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    That's fair. I'm hoping that this is a long-term play. The GPU market is almost entirely upside and it's far from crowded.

    [–] nicman24@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    2015 called. They want their carpe verde GPUs back

    [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    AMD is probably the best choice for Linux now, not that nVidia isn't still as fast for gaming, but there are a number of limitations to using both the proprietary and open source nVidia driver, and proprietary is the only option for nVidia if you want decent performance.

    My wife had huge problems with xruns due to some sort of bug in the nVidia proprietary driver running with a real time kernel.

    Xrun is when the Audio doesn't fill buffers in time, usually it's just a few milliseconds and mostly inaudible, but it's no good, if you are making music.

    I'm sure for most either is fine today. But if you want to engage in open source development, AMD is by far the best choice, because the open source driver is much more well behaved, both than the nVidia open source and proprietary drivers.

    [–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 8 points 1 year ago

    Last image makes "Beep Beep" in my head.

    [–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

    I have AMD GPU it never crash on me unless I overclock it

    [–] lysol@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

    The BMW representing "douche" is spot on.

    [–] gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    As others have mentioned, this is super old. Also, catalyst is not nearly as reckless and dangerous as it should be. It was more like letting a drunk child drive a school bus.

    [–] optissima@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

    Those have additional safeties like speed governerners, which balances out the drunk child driving it 👌

    [–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

    I feel like Nvidia +proprietary explains the hit and runs they do on other parts of my systems sometimes...

    [–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Is gaming with Nvidia really so dire? I have a modern green card and I'm considering a switch to Linux desktop.

    [–] Bondrewd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

    Glad to hear it. Thanks.