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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/19650358

Through an updated Google API, Android app developers can now effectively block sideloading and force downloads from the Play Store.

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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 66 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Isn't that a textbook monopolistic practices lawsuit?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sounds more like DRM, since it's for developers to choose whether or not to disable side loading their apps

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, that will make it easy to uninstall apps.

All my homies download from fdroid

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Apps on F-Droid are not using proprietary Google APIs and won't be affected.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Okay good. That was my main concern since I opt to download the same app from F-droid over Google play if it is an option.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago

It's a problem if you need a fucking banking app for example, and the bank won't let you sideload it and you're running a deGoogled OS. Then you suddenly need a backup phone with the full surveillance Android just to do banking.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But the picture I saw said "get this app from play" not, "get this app from a trusted store". That to me does not read DRM.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Because the developers want to check whether you got the app from the Play Store.

If the developers don't care where you get the app from, then they won't check.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying it should allow for developers to allow exclusive installation from third party stores as well? Like amazon? Fair.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But is there anything stopping them from implementing that?

Afaik this is just a Google play API and the app checks using the API if the current user is licenced or not. Why couldn't just any other store just do the same thing?

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

They can. IIRC, Amazon apps would check to make sure the Amazon App Store was still installed. And I'm pretty sure Netflix games stop working when you unsubscribe from Netflix

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

Not really since it's opt in for the developers who chose to distribute only on the play store

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 21 points 2 months ago

Right in the monopoly back you go

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Google made this available so they can encourage developers to use it and say "we're not a monopoly, the developers are adding the check" and see how long they can get away with it.

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how that will work for graphene os devices with the sandboxed Google services

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 months ago

This DRM is built in to Play Integrity, and GrapheneOS only passes the basic check, so apps using this DRM won't work.

Stronger levels of Play Integrity don't work on GOS anyway, so hopefully devs won't use this feature either.

Spoofing Play Integrity works with rooted phones, although it breaks from time to time.

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

I wonder if the latest "play integrity fix" module could solve that problem. Its already allowing me to use bank apps on my rooted phone, so I assume it would let me sideload too if the integrity was "fixed". Google is making more problems with paid solutions.

[–] spiderman@ani.social 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is going to be a pain in the ass for sometime. Almost all the apps that has sell something through google play will use that API now.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Lucky patcher will fix this.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago

laughs in revanced

[–] Wrongdoer4094@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

The comeback of crack and medicines!

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Fucking hell just when I decided to get my first pixel after leaving Samsung

[–] sfjvvssss@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pixels have really good custom Roms available.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

But what breaks though? I heard android auto is broke with Graphene. AA is a requirement for me

Edit: apparently AA broke on a crap ton of Custom Roms including CalyxOS

[–] sfjvvssss@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

That might be a showstopper and I don't know anything about AA when it comes to custom roms.

[–] histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This isn't just a pixel thing tho?

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah but I was thinking about iOS again since I could upgrade phones. If google is going to make android like iOS why stay,...?

Edit: FYI I had a jailbroken Dopamine iPhone