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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Just what I always wanted: letting Google listen in on my phone calls.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They probably are already Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I doubt it. It would be really obvious because of the extra data traffic. People who go bananas if they found out Google chews through their monthly plan to exfiltrate audio.

Although Google (and Apple, and all the others) are working hard to embed AI onto your cellphone, not for your own convenience but to implement client-side surveillance - i.e. digest what you see and do and distill the surveillance data on your device before it even hits the internet - so that the surveillance doesn't attract undue attention.

But we're not there quite yet, and I don't believe even Google could get away with real, proper audio surveillance today.

That's probably the reason why they want to create this bogus "note taking" service: to have a legitimate excuse to listen in on your audio.

[–] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago

But with this new tech things are easier isn't it. They just need to transfer just bytes of data and they will get the important bits of the call.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is "Google" your Android phone? If so, "Google" has always been "listening" to your calls. This is nothing new, just your phone getting more helpful. Big "old man yells at cloud" energy here.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago

I believe most of these transcribers run local.

[–] pyr0ball@reddthat.com 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Aren't there laws in place about consent and recording phone calls specifically?

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Newsflash: Big Data is above the law. Didn't you know?

They'll spin it as a "service" to the user and carve out an exemption that way. And 10 or 15 years down the line, you'll hear your own words spat back at you by a fucking chatbot, but it'll be too late by then.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Newsflash: Big tech is ~~above~~ the law

FTFY (I'd add a smiling emoji, but nothing to really smile about)

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago

A lot of the tweens posting here act like that's literally true.

[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 9 points 3 months ago

I live in Australian state that has two party consent for recording of phone calls, I’d love to see the legal decision that would come from this sort of recording but not keeping audio type of call record. It’d be interesting, I think.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Depends on the location. Some places you can’t record without other’s consent and some you can.

[–] phuntis@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

gross more spyware like windows recall

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 11 points 3 months ago

Absolutely fucking not.

[–] bookcrawler@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bit torn. This would be amazing when I'm a bit deaf (screw you pollen season). But where is this being transcribed? I strongly suspect that even if it's done phone side Google will send a recording and the text output to home base for "training" purposes.

[–] httpjames@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's certainly going to be done on device. Existing pixels can already do this with Live Captions

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Wasn't call recording a standard feature in Android years ago before being removed? Then Google shutdown all third-parrty recorders a couple of years ago.

[–] Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah. Back in the day I used to use BoldBeast call recorder. Now I use Basic Call Recorder (BCR) on my Android phone and it auto-records every call perfectly.

[–] Noerttipertti@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago

Woohoo! More training data to AI overlords. (Consent on by default of course)

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Cool cool cool cool cool cool cool.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bruhhh, fuck off. At this point the only thing an android phone would be good for is installing another, more privacy oriented, ROM