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Elon Musk’s FSD v12 demo includes a near miss at a red light and doxxing Mark Zuckerberg — 45-minute video was meant to demonstrate v12 of Tesla’s Full Self-Driving but ended up being a list of thi...::Elon Musk posted a 45-minute live demonstration of v12 of Tesla’s Full Self-Driving feature. During the video, Musk has to take control of the vehicle after it nearly runs a red light. He also doxxes Mark Zuckerberg.

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[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

AI DRIVR made an interesting analysis about the v12 on YouTube. Apparently it's completely different from the previous versions and instead of understanding traffic rules it learns from a videos of people driving which means it does things like doesn't fully stop at stop signs and drives over the speedlimit - like people do too.

It's interesting because by strictly following traffic rules you might infact be a danger to others but by driving like humans you're also breaking the law. Good example of a situation where the "right" thing to do might not be the most intuitive one though in this case it's still up for a debate.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s what we were all clambering for: a self driving machine that operates like a mouth breather late for work.

Elon is a masterclass of stupid.

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[–] DampSquid@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I assume this all just bullshit and lies like last time?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

When was it ever different from old musky?

How long before the cybertruck is released again?

[–] atfergs@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I wonder who got fired after that.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


“That’s why we’ve not released this to the public yet.” (FSD is technically a beta software, though Musk has said that v12 will be the first time Tesla removes that label.)

But the moment when Musk was forced to intervene at the traffic light has already been seized upon by critics who say Tesla’s approach to autonomous driving is insufficient and reckless.

Musk has said that FSD is being tested as beta software to emphasize the need for drivers to pay attention to the road while using the driver-assist feature.

(Remember, Musk has banned the @ElonJet account that tracks his private jet from X/Twitter, claiming it was a “direct personal safety risk” to him.)

The broader context here is that the federal government’s two-year investigation into Tesla’s highway driver-assist feature, Autopilot, is nearing its end, which may have prompted Musk to post the video as provocation.

The government could force a recall of Autopilot and, by extension, FSD, which could affect Tesla’s valuation, much of which hinges on the company’s promise that it will offer full autonomy to its customers in the near future.


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[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Eh I hate the dipshit but he has a point. its not really doxxing when he literally just googled it live.

[–] EyesEyesBaby@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If we apply that same theory to @ElonJet, then that wouldn't be doxxing either. Obviously Elon thinks otherwise. If @ElonJet is doxxing, then so is this.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

never said that wasn't. basically the same thing.

[–] silvercove@lemdro.id 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that why he has been trying to ban ElonJet?

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol already talked about that elsewhere. yep its exactly the same thing. im not saying he isn't a hypocrite

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Excuse me, this is the internet. You have to form a view on someone and then either agree or disagree with everything they do consistently otherwise it's illegal.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Lop yep. People are talking to me like I'm some kind of Fanboy when all I really said was maybe, this time, he didn't actually strangle a puppy.

[–] lazyvar@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn’t that a little bit of circular reasoning?

If I doxx someone online then it gets indexed by Google, if someone then Google’s the information it stops being doxxing?

I’d assume most doxxing isn’t done by someone who has unique firsthand knowledge (e.g. “Oh I know John, he lives on so and so road”) and instead is done by finding the information online whether via Google or a different public source.

At least in the US, where a ridiculous amount of private information is deemed “public”.

[–] timkenhan@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

releasing the information versus acquiring the released information are two different thing.

[–] lazyvar@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most doxxers don't technically release the information, rather they've acquired it and point others to where they've acquired it or simply disseminate it further.

[–] indepndnt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

disseminate it further.

AKA release it.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really? Because, in your scenario, Musk would have to be the person to originally post his info. He didn't even have to go drop a few bucks on spokeo or something

[–] lazyvar@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what I'm saying. In most cases the doxxer isn't the one who originally provided the info, but rather someone who has found the information online via a Google search or something similar.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

and in most situations the person releasing the information isn't doxxing someone whos world famous and takes all of 4 seconds to find information on. usually when you hear about doxxing its...well...someone like you. hidden behind a anon nickname and some weird ass neckbeard digs and digs to find enough information to get your name and go from there.

Its quite a bit different when the person is one of the wealthiest and most powerful men on the planet and so much about him is just very basic known things.