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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] entropy@not.alazy.dev 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is there any info on what this distro is supposed to be? Browsed the site could not find any summary of what makes it different

[–] donuts@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

It's an immutable distro akin to Fedora Silverblue, which means it's theoretically extremely solid but you can't easily change the base system.

And while I haven't tried it myself, the thing that seems to set VanillaOS apart from something like Silverblue is that is built around the idea of containing various subsystems based on other distros (like an Ubuntu subsystem and an Arch subsystem), which should make it easy to install packages from a variety of distro (or even the AUR, for another example) on top of a very solid, static base system. Under the hood it uses a container management tool called Distrobox to achieve that, but it seems to be pretty nicely abstracted for user simplicity.

I daily drive Fedora Silverblue and I do something similar with distrobox for things that don't make sense to install as Flatpaks. In other words, on my system I have an immutable base system (with optional package layering, rollbacks, rebasing, etc.), then flatpaks or appimages for most simple applications (firefox, blender, krita, etc.), and finally distrobox to handle various dev environments and music production environment (which relies on wine and a lot of plugins).

VanillaOS is something like that, but out of the box, and aiming to be GUI-user friendly.

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This has some good info.

https://news.itsfoss.com/vanilla-os-beta/

The main change with 2.0 is the Debian Sid base, as opposed to Ubuntu.

[–] Certainity45@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Debian Sid? Why not Bookworm?

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The devs laid out their reasoning here:

https://vanillaos.org/blog/article/2023-03-07/vanilla-os-20-orchid---initial-work

Essentially, they want a non-opinionated rolling release and to stick with apt as a base package manager, which means that Sid is the obvious solution.

[–] jennraeross@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It’s an immutable disto built around distrobox, I believe

[–] Jerrimu2@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried it for a while, not for normal use really. Everything is sandboxed and slow as fuck.

[–] gonzoknowsdotcom1@monero.town 3 points 1 year ago

I’ve been daily driving for over a year and can say otherwise

[–] VerbTheNoun95@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I played around with it in a VM earlier today. I liked the overall feel of it quite a bit, even as someone who prefers not to use gnome. But there are quite a few inconsistencies in using the alpha compared to what’s in the handbook, particularly for installing new packages. I wonder if that’s something that’s still being implemented in Orchid.

I liked it though, I’ll definitely keep following it.

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

The latest developer preview build in an early alpha of 2.0. It is noticeably less functional than the latest stable release, which is still built on Ubuntu.

If you want to play around with their package manager and distrobox, I'd suggest trying out the latter.