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[–] protist@mander.xyz 43 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Australia's car manufacturing industry is basically non-existent, they import almost all of them. The EU and US have huge manufacturing bases they're trying to protect

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

More accurately: American car manufacturers killed our local production.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Really? I don't know a ton about this, but it looks like American and Japanese manufacturers are the only ones to have ever operated in Australia

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

We had Australian made and designed cars, then gm bought out Holden and ran it into the ground before shuttering the brand entirely.

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not super into cars, but it's my understanding Holden was a local manufacturer that got bought out by GM? Or if not that, then they were making specifically Australian vehicles despite being part of GM, much like Ford Australia used to. Both ended up shutting down operations down here, so now we have nothing local.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So not the fault of USA manufacturers, but Australia's incompetent leadership

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

No, not even close to that

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Pour one out for the poor bosses at GM and Ford

[–] Owljfien@lemm.ee 15 points 6 months ago

Adelaide killed big chunks of their public transport system to appease Holden, who fucked off anyway. Still salty.

[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 5 points 5 months ago

Thanks to Joe Hockey and the LNP government who decided it wasn’t strategically important to have high value manufacturing in Australia.

[–] exanime@lemmy.today 29 points 6 months ago

America: "it's fine when corporations move manufacturing to China and sell back home for a huge profit... But it's not okay for China to sell their manufactured goods in the USA"

[–] Fallenwout@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

If EU manufacturers didn't charge 35k for a car that barely fits 3 people, we wouldn't need to turn to these chinese cars.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 20 points 6 months ago

I don't blame them. I used to look down on them until my mother bought a Chinese car and I was impressed by how good it is, not just for the price but full stop.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 18 points 5 months ago

People buy vehicles they can afford, more at 11

[–] VeryImportantUser@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

American imperialism will never allow working, quality Chinese cars. You will buy Tesla and YOU WILL like it!

[–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Well, I feel misled. The graphic shows a Volvo as a Chinese manufactured vehicle.

Sales of Chinese made EVs in Australia

  • Tesla - 46,116
  • BYD - 12,438
  • MG - 5,928
  • Volvo - 3,949

They're counting Tesla as a Chinese EV.

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Where were they manufactured?

[–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

In China. But the majority of Teslas are manufactured are in China, and no one really considers Teslas "Chinese cars" or "Chinese EVs".

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So manufactured in China like the article says.

[–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Doesn't stop it from being misleading.

It's called "burying the lede".

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's misleading based on your arguably less important criteria, but OK

[–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Wow, you think Teslas are "Chinese EVs". You're literally the first person I've encountered to think so. Also why lead into an article with a graphic of the least selling vehicle?

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In Australia they’re all manufactured in China. So it’s a Chinese car.

Cars in high developed economies like Australia have until recently been mainly manufactured in highly developed economies like EU, Japan, US etc.

[–] Railison@aussie.zone 3 points 6 months ago

Isn’t there a Chinese Tesla factory?

[–] UnfortunateDoorHinge@aussie.zone 9 points 5 months ago

Because the Australian Teslas and Volvos are made in China. It's a Chinese EV. Volvo is owned by a Chinese Company.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Still, the BYD figure is nothing to be scoffed at.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

If you’re wealthy.

[–] DMBFFF@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If China gave them away for free, the Sinophobes would probably still complain.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

I imagine there's a few things above sinophobia for the average car buyer. Just a few.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can I buy a, cough, Australian electric car?

[–] WaterWaiver@aussie.zone 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Something weird https://ace-ev.com.au/

  • Claim to be "made in Australia"
  • Don't provide any photos of their production line or factory.
  • Underpowered (max speed 100kmph)

Perhaps imported and then assembled in Australia?

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Isn't that the new bullshit line nowadays? Companies used designed in , but everything is still made in China.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


This year, vehicles from China became the third most popular choice for new car sales in Australia, knocking South Korea — the home of Kia and Hyundai — down to fourth place, and rapidly gaining ground on manufacturing leaders Thailand and Japan.

President Ursula von der Leyen said global markets were being "flooded with cheaper electric cars" with prices "kept artificially low by huge state subsidies".

The Chinese government has spent decades trying to help its flagging auto industry catch up to the giants of Europe, Asia and the US, and while it failed in the era of petrochemical propulsion, it found success in the age of the electric vehicle.

Growing consumer awareness, cost competitiveness, technological advances and a cut in tariffs thanks to the Australia-China Free Trade Agreement are all helping to drive sales of Chinese vehicles in Australia.

A spokesperson from Australia's Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) said increased competition and the availability of Chinese-produced vehicles had "enhanced consumer choice, allowing Australians to purchase cars that best fit their work, recreation, and family".

Professor Zhang said despite claims China was "flooding the market" with EVs, the global vehicle fleet was still dominated by internal combustion engines and consumers would ultimately "choose products that suit their needs".


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