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[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 126 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I'm yet to see literally any of these things while using UBO, I almost feel like I'm being gaslighted at times.

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 25 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I'm a paying YouTube premium subscriber and use adguard. But, I have been experiencing the YouTube app being slow in loading comments for some reason.

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think youtube has just started needing way more bandwidth than it used to. A few years ago, 100KB/s would load a videos page almost instantly, comments as well, and smoothly run 360p playback. Now even at 160KB/s I often spend 60+ seconds for parts of the page to even load.

[–] AceSLS@ani.social 14 points 5 months ago

That's thanks to their shitty javascript. Gosh, I hate sites doing that so much

Just let me use my browser the way it's intended to instoad of loading every shitty little html element dynamically with your shitty js doing shitty network requests dropping them like crazy

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be honest Youtube has always been slow to me, especially their streams. God, their streams are an absolutely resource hog, I've never seen a chat use up so much CPU power.

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 5 points 5 months ago

The last two times there were also errors like not being able to upvote anything. Later, I found it was a global youtube issue. YouTube needs to improve to be able to serve people at its scale.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Why? Why are you paying YouTube? What is wrong with you?

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I can tell you why I do. I watch more YT than anything else (on my TV), and don't want to watch ads, or play cat and mouse games trying to prevent them. I also listen to a lot of music, and use YT Music. I pay for the family plan, since we all listen to music, and my son and I watch a lot of YT (very different videos on YT however :) )

I get, there's a growing group of people that think everything should be free, but I'm OK paying for something I use a lot, to remove ads. There should, however be more controls for paid users, like controlling whether or not you see creator ads, shorts, etc...

[–] graeghos_714@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've been tempted to sign up as well so I can stream to my TV through their app. I can block anything I want through my PC but smart TV's are too locked down for my technical knowledge so I get ad's which is unacceptable

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are android apps (I could side load) on my Nvidia shield, but like I said I don't mind paying for something I use , and use a lot.

[–] graeghos_714@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm still sitting on my Roku for the time being. I keep all my other TV connections dumb so my TV and Blu Ray don't have my WiFi info. I did finally get a HDMI for my laptop to connect to the TV to watch racing on YT without ads which is an adequate backup option now. I have studio monitors on my PC that are better than the soundbar/Sub on the TV, but when friends are over the TV works better for watching stuff

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 2 points 5 months ago

Ya, my TV is actually 'smart' but I use the Nvidia shield through an AV receiver which feeds 5.1 speakers and the TV.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I do totally get paying to support something you use a ton.

But I don't get comments like this calling blocking ads a cat and mouse game. It's always been incredibly easy to block ads on the devices I own and I rarely ever have to mess with anything after installing a single browser extension or a single app.

On my desktop/laptop--ublock origin. I would install this regardless of whether or not I care about YouTube ads because ads on websites in general can be pretty cancerous. So I would already have it on my device to begin with. Install one extension and forget about it. Very occasionally ads start coming through, but then the extension auto updates itself and I don't have to worry about it. It's effortless and I absolutely never need to mess with the settings.

On my phone--YouTube ReVanced. Just basically download I think two APK files and you're set. I've had to reinstall this a single time over the maybe decade(?) I've been using it as YouTube had some sort of breaking update or something. But having to install it again once every many years is hardly an inconvenience. Oh I guess I have had to install it again when I've gotten a new phone, but that's really not that odd or inconvenient to me either....and generally I don't get a new phone that often.

On my android TV device--SmartTube Next. It's a single APK file. Set it and forget it. I've never had to reinstall the app.

One caveat with this is that it seems harder to watch YouTube ad free (without paying for premium) on Apple devices. So if you use a lot of Apple products it also makes sense.

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ya, all you have to do is install something different on every device you own/watch YouTube on.

You also, have to be technical enough to side load, or compile revanced etc... I've heard over and over that ubo keeps having updates/changes to keep yt ads down.

I actually am technical enough to do those things, but both doing and managing these various apps across multiple devices in my house is a lot of work. Or, I can just pay for the music and TV I watch.

For the record, I also have and paid for GrayJay app on my phone and do also use it on occasion. We have used smart tube TV in the past because when my son was younger Google had shit parental controls and we couldn't allow his child account to access regular yt (restricted). I've got it side loaded on both our Nvidia shield and gtv devices. Too bad it doesn't work on android TV, or my wife/sons iPhones.

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 11 points 5 months ago

YTmusic is the main reason I bothered to pay for premium. I was using Spotify and had a trial of 3months. The quality of recommendations was decent so chose to stick around. Adfree YouTube was another bonus.

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think a better question: Why are they reading YouTube comments?

[–] Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 5 points 5 months ago

I read comments! I watch a lot of videos about self hosting services and the comments is where you find other people who have followed the video and struggled at some point. If you're lucky it's a common sticking point you're stuck on and someone in the comments has a way of fixing it.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's free with my YouTube music sub. I was grandfathered into the cheapest price from the Google play music launch. I like a lot of tech and science videos and I watch YouTube for that. Worth it to me.

[–] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

This is me, too. The alternative seems to be Spotify (also going shitty) or self hosting. I miss the hell out of gpm, but ytm at least works and it comes with ad free YouTube. Not the worst deal out there

[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm a YouTube premium subscriber with Adguard Home and haven't noticed anything slow.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You pay for free content? Why?

Edit: Inb4 "I sUpPorT the crEaTorS". If you pay them directly, you cut out the INSANE charge Google forces on creators.

Source: former YouTube partner

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 15 points 5 months ago

Ad blockers have differences and some are better than others.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago

I have noticed slightly worse performance across the web in general though

[–] ChallengeApathy@infosec.pub 2 points 5 months ago

Same except I watch with Freetube 99% of the time. Never once had it happen to me.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 82 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I had completely forgotten about their war on adblockers. Haven't had to play with uBlock for months.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Did you have to mess around with it at some point?

I've been Firefox with uBlock Origin for a couple years and haven't ever messed around with the settings other than turning it off for a few select websites. Haven't had any of the issues other people reported with youtube.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

At the very beginning I had to switch from ABP to uBO. I actually used ABP specifically because I wanted to allow through some non-obtrusive ads, because I think it's morally right to let companies make a profit if they're not being overly obnoxious about it, and ABP's Acceptable Ads policy is great for that. Unfortunately ABP was slower to implement something to avoid YouTube's fuckery, so I switched to uBO. Google has shot themselves in the foot because now instead of a small number of ads getting through, none do.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 11 points 5 months ago

UBO has options to limit how much is blocked, although I haven't played around with how granular the options are.

There are a few websites that I have UBO disabled because they have always had unobtrusive ads.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

At the very beginning of their crackdown I remember I had to update shit a few times to get rid of that 'no adblocker' screen but yeah...its been months now and youtube is perfectly normal.

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would have said the same if loading any youtube page didn’t take literally like 15 seconds

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 11 points 5 months ago

I just loaded up a video instantly with Firefox + uBlock Origin.

[–] bestusername@aussie.zone 69 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Google-owned YouTube succeeded in shutting down the popular third-party YouTube Vanced app back in 2022

And 4 seconds later an alternative appeared.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Somehow Nintendo was harder on litigating yuzu than Google was on vanced

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 32 points 5 months ago

Anyone who knows Nintendo's history, knows that they go super hard on litigating. Don't let the happy little mascots fool you, they're as aggressive as Disney when they think they can get away with it.

Google, on the other hand, still has some software people in their management structure.

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[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 13 points 5 months ago
[–] Wistful@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Is this fake alert again, like with that bug in the Adblock Plus? I didn't notice any issues.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"it's rolling out in waves!"

It's been kind of a long time for them to not have covered everyone. I suspect it's just user error, especially considering the source of these articles is always just "some dude on social media saying trust me bro."

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

"this might have been a bug"

that or they didn't like the PR so they reverted it till later

[–] Tregetour@lemdro.id 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

How many Youtube employees would be assigned to frontend/adblock sabotage efforts? I'm wondering whether the law of diminishing returns will be observed, or will the company have sufficient resources to maintain the shenanigans indefinitely.

If it's the latter, Youtube can rest assured my resolve will match theirs, until the damned thing gets paywalled...

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It would be so interesting to see how the internet reacts to YouTube going paywalled. It would probably kill a lot of YT creators' revenue and views.

Or maybe people would pay for it, idk. Do people spend more time on YouTube than they do Disney+ or Hulu or Netflix, given YT Premium's cost?

[–] Tregetour@lemdro.id 1 points 5 months ago

So long as it's publicly accessible, Youtube has 'plausible credibility' when it talks to advertisers about impression numbers. Remember, we're not the only party YT fucks.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

That's actually just kinda hilarious ngl

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

YT any% speedrun

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Broadcast Yourself, if you're willing to let us slap money making machines all over your channel, and nobody can get rid of them.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Lol, not here.

[–] Todgerdickinson@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The cat takes 4 months to cook their dinner. The mouse eats it in 5 mins.

Happily using UBOrigin on web and uYouplus on iOS.

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