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[–] normonator@lemmy.ml 110 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I swear they haven't added a single fucking feature that is worth anything. Every single thing they do makes their product worse.

[–] umulu@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

I use tidal, and the only thing I miss from Spotify is the ability to transfer the music I'm listening to the PC or smartphone

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I have many friends that complain about these things, that noticed the exact same pattern as you.

And yet, every last single time I've ask them "Have you looked into using a different service? Maybe try one?" they mumble out a noncommittal response and never do.

[–] krippix@feddit.de 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The question is whether it bothers someone enough to switch, and I cant really say thats the case for me. Because copying the playlists over and the additional price increase (losing the family plan) are too annoying tbh.

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[–] nsantoro73@lemmy.sdf.org 72 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I stopped paying for and using spotify when they a. renewed their contract with Joe Rogan b. changed their music payment policy so that if you aren't trending, you make no money.

Fuck Spotify.

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

if you aren’t trending, you make no money

What now?

[–] KidnappedByKitties@lemm.ee 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

No payment for sub-1000 streams/year

[–] hinterlufer@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, that equates to just above 3 USD per year if the numbers from the other post are correct.

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[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 61 points 5 months ago (20 children)

Don’t use Spotify. Use Tidal, Apple Music, or just pirate and support authors other ways.

[–] JohnSmith@feddit.uk 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I switched to Tidal a few weeks ago, primarily because of lossless streaming, but also fuck Spotify for your price hikes. Not going back.

[–] CodingCarpenter@lemm.ee 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How's the artist selection? I find a lot of stuff on Spotify that is a bit niche and I wondering if they have it. I tried searching the catalog which they say you can do but not before you sign up for their free trial which I'm not willing to

[–] JohnSmith@feddit.uk 5 points 5 months ago

So far I’ve found everything I looked for, and a few new ones too. Their app features for lyrics and other songs you might like work great. Admittedly, I’m an old metal head who loves singing to a song at the top of the voice, out of tune of course, so I might not be skirting the kinds of niches you like.

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[–] notsofunnycomment@mander.xyz 15 points 5 months ago

What happens at the y-axis is pure magic.

[–] jonasw@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Can also recommend Qobuz which allegedly pays even more than tidal. And it also has real losless audio, instead of whatever Tidal is doing.

And you can even buy FLAC files from them, without DRM. Or use tools which you can find on the internet, where you can download the flac files 'for free' (you still need a subscription).

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

No wonder deezer lacks most of my beloved artists.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Or, continue to use Spotify but use xManager on android and spicetify on pc. This will give you the premium experience (and more!) without paying a single penny.

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[–] sasquash@sopuli.xyz 58 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And don't forget that Spotify can only handle around 150 songs in the queue. It doesn't matter how big a playlist is, it will start repeat after a while. The proposed solution by spotify itself is to just deactivate shuffle and start on different songs in large playlist. It's absolutely ridiculous. It bothers thousands of people but they won't fix it. https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Option-to-have-a-true-shuffle/idi-p/4880594

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

What? Only 150? Is it some unoptimized list of their in-house song objects? I don't understand how it can be the inefficient. Please tell me they just need to use an array and this isn't them doing that.

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[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Spicetify has a true shuffle extension

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[–] flipflop97@feddit.nl 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Alternative:

Your whole queue is gone and I'll just stop playing after this song

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[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago

I once got a message from spotify saying congratulations, your musical taste is unique, you haven't liked a single song we have recommended. They haven't stopped trying though.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I gave up Spotify partly because they support Joe Rogan, but also because I mostly listen to classical music, and they kept shuffling in Britney Spears.

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[–] DampSquid@feddit.uk 22 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Fuck Spotify. You're better off - in every way - pirating and buying one album a year

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Buying an album every month and ripping it for mobile is literally cheaper than Spoofy. No pirating required and there’s a real chance the artist might get a share!
Edit: I do mean a CD, or vinyl if that tickles your fancy.

[–] DampSquid@feddit.uk 5 points 5 months ago

Thank you. I was trying to make it seem super low effort. I still have all my CDs but pretty much just buy vinyl and FLAC these days.

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[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I feel like I'm the only one around here who likes the Spotify recommendations. I've gotten so many bangers that fit my various little niche genre tastes.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 19 points 5 months ago

The feature itself is fine, the fact that it's literally in between you and turning regular shuffle on and off is incredibly irritating

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I like getting recommendations, but that's what the DJ is for. When I choose a playlist there's usually a reason for it and adding random songs to it is not it.

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[–] humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Spotify erased my precisely curated list because I'm Russian and this somehow helps to stop the war in Ukraine

[–] the_third@feddit.de 21 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Streaming services can only be inspiration for new music. Once something has me hooked, it goes into my permanent local library. No subscription based service should be relied on for anything that can't be replicated in 30 minutes.

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[–] AtomfriedMegaforce@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Weird. I got noone telling me to listen vinyl on a hand driven Grammophone right now

Why would you leave tempo control in tge hands of a soulless machine? #beyourownconductor

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[–] lamabop@lemmings.world 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why is Spotify's shuffle so abysmally awful? It's nigh on useless

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[–] RinseDrizzle@midwest.social 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Hot take but hasn't been a problem for me. Like, the feature stays off until I turn it on again, and I only turn it on when I'm trying to expand a playlist.

I use Spotify for discovering new songs, mostly for adding to the DJ arsenal. I listen to a lot of music. Enough that I make like 15-20ish playlists a year for various subgenres of tunes either released or discovered that year.

Since I compartmentalize my genres so methodically, smart recommendations tend to be on the money and more of what I'm looking for. But again, when I just wanna hear what I've assembled I just leave it off -- never on unless I turn it on.

Definitely been eyeballing alternatives though, since Spotty is getting deeper into their enshitty arc.

[–] dvlsg@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I never want to turn it on, but I do swap from shuffle to regular (depending on whether I want to listen to just the newest stuff I've added), which means I have to click through smart shuffle now too.

Which wouldn't be a huge problem, but if you do it too fast, smart shuffle appears to be off, but the songs it has added are at least partially still in the queue.

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[–] qwestjest78@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Song quality is terrible. The features are lacking and rarely useful. Now they have increased the rates and take away car play. I left when I realized my top artists and songs were the same every year. Much better to buy the songs when the quality is way better and I actually own the media

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Do you and I live on a different planet? I grew up when you downloaded actual poor quality music. I stream Spotify at the highest bitrate it has, and it sounds fine. I have a nice system at home.

You talk about features and whatnot, and admittedly I am a simple user. I have albums I like, I turn on album and listen through cover to cover. I throw on Smartless, because for some reason I find Jason Bateman and Will Arnett's abuse of Sean Hughes to be endearing.

As per usual, people on Lemmy seem to make up problems, and it ruins any sort of argument against anything. Spotify's audio quality is not the issue. The issue is obviously the artist remuneration. To create this fake argument is to dilute any worthwhile argument, but Lemmy and Reddit before it seems to take this tack wherever possible.

I have discovered numerous artists because of Spotify. Spotify has linked me to their tickets (albeit Live Nation and fuck them) and merch stores, and I've bought their shitty tshirts and vinyls. I would say that's a benefit. And I like some obscure nonsense.

Is it perfect? I don't like how Spotify has handled its personnel. I think they can make their business model related to plays a little more friendly, but holy shit, the idealism here is ridiculous. You have people demanding perfection, without recognizing the alternative is nothing.

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[–] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 months ago

I hate that stupid fucking smart shuffle, I have a playlist with 500+ songs but it only wants to play the first 20

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 5 months ago

It sounds like it would be nice, but it's worse than the non-AI system it used before. At least before it mostly stayed within the same vibe. With the AI shuffle, it just feels completely random. It doesn't even attempt to stay within a genre. I used it all of 20 minutes when it first came out and then turned it off and never touched it again.

[–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 months ago

Also, they'll probably kill the Car Thing permanently soon. Another bad move.

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