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I am shocked. Shocked! /s

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[–] mina@berlin.social 132 points 2 months ago (20 children)

@dantheclamman

I am definitely starting to hate #Mozilla.

As a remark: I have always been fine with their deal with Pocket and having Google as their default search engine. In the end, there are bills to be paid.

Until I learned that e.g. Mozilla Corporation's CEO is on a multi-million dollar salary, and they're hiring ai and ad people.

Not OK for an entity where many highly skilled people code for free.

It's not what users want the cash to be spent on.

Leaving the Fedi is the final drop

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why does it matter that they don't run an instance? Most open source projects do not.

As long as they keep an account on an instance and keep it up to date, this is the main thing.

Hate is a strong emotional decision for a company making an internet browser....

[–] mina@berlin.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@CrypticCoffee

Wasn't by far my only point.

However: Making a commitment and then pulling back, is a statement.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No. It's trying something. If company's get punished for investing and trying something, others won't even try in future. I respect they tried. If I was in charge, I wouldn't have bothered.

[–] mina@berlin.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@CrypticCoffee

I wonder, how increasing CEO pay year by year worked out for them.

Certainly, definitely not in growing the user base, but also not in revenue that would make up it.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Separate issue entirely. I'm talking specifically about Fediverse investment and why that was the final straw.

I thought the discussion was about that and not a "I hate Mozilla" greatest hits.

You can always throw in that Google fund them and a 10 year old bug that hasn't been resolved if that was your purpose.

I guess ranting can help you feel better, so I hope it helped.

[–] mina@berlin.social -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@CrypticCoffee

You did not read the entire post you first replied to, did you?

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

I read it, just had nothing to add.

For the record, I disagree with the AI funding, CEO pay and pocket stuff. It doesn't make me hate them though. They build the biggest open source alternative to Google dictating standards for web. That's massive. I strongly dislike google for a multitude of reasons and hating a company that challenges that is a strange position to take. If Firefox goes, we're mega fucked.

Maybe place your anger with the actual bad actors in the browser space.

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