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[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 41 points 5 days ago (17 children)

Phrasing it like that is weird, but you don't actually need soap. It just makes the oils and grime come off easier, so without it you just need to scrub more diligently.

If you're cleaning yourself properly your skin is gonna be the same cleanliness afterwards either way. Cheap soap will dry your skin though, so use decent soap.

Cleaning regularly and effectively is the key, not the specifics. Soap just lowers the bar for effectiveness, and maybe adds "and also moisturize".

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (4 children)

You absolutely do need soap. It literally causes bacteria to disintegrate, something you can't do with water alone.

[–] addictedtochaos@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

thats worng, you describe disinfectants, soap breaks the fatty bonds that stick the bacteria to your skin. so, while you whash your hands, these alive bactera are whashed down the drain.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Soap does destroy some bacteria, and a not insignificant portion. By destroying those fatty bonds the cellular membranes of many bacteria are destroyed, and many viruses denatured and rendered inert.

The removal is the primary action though, you are correct. Not all bacteria are destroyed by soap, which is why the leather, scrub, and scrub while rinsing steps are important to hand washing, since that mechanical action is what removes everything.

https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/why-soap-works/

[–] addictedtochaos@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

thanks, thats certainly a good read! I wonder though why clinics don't have soap bars; maybe thats not true, but is it not general knowledge that soap bars spread germs?

ah, you answered that as well, sorry. thanks!

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