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[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 32 points 1 week ago (20 children)

If I call a snake poisonous, or a frog venomous there is no knowledgeable person that will be confused about what I'm saying. The only people who bring this point up are people who love to be pedantic.

[–] LoreleiSankTheShip@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Would you say the same thing about being envious and being jealous?

[–] BugleFingers@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the way that language is commonly used, yes. People have been using it wrong for so long "jealous" has effectively become synonymous with "envious". Even if I dislike and disagree with it being used this way.

If someone is eating a donut and you say "I'm so jealous [of having the donut]" I'm fairly confident most everyone would understand you mean envious by definition but are using the word jealous to convey that meaning.

[–] hakase@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here's my comment from the last time this came up (like a week ago):

"There's been no meaning shift. The "possessive" and "envious" uses of jealous both date from the 14th century in English, and both senses were present in the ancestors of these words all the way back to Greek."

It's always been synonymous with "envious", as far back as we can trace.

[–] BugleFingers@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Ah, than there's no issue to begin with

[–] cheesymoonshadow@lemmings.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Chekhovs_Gun@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Don't forget literally and figuratively

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