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Leaked Zoom all-hands: CEO says employees must return to offices because they can't be as innovative or get to know each other on Zoom::Zoom CEO Eric Yuan discussed the benefits of in-person work in a leaked meeting.

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[–] infyrin@lemmy.world 107 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (30 children)

What the fuck is so 'innovative' about sitting around a big table while people blab on and on about mundane things around the workplace?

God, that word is just spammed so much from tech companies of people who don't even know what innovation is because they themselves haven't done any damn thing innovative in their life times except recycle ideas.

[–] malloc@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some person in WorkReform was defending mandatory RTO because an office environment was supposedly more secure. I called bullshit on their claims. Apparently a “cybersecurity expert” lol

I don’t care if companies want to waste resources on buying commercial properties. But don’t force people to go back to the stupid office. It worked for the past 3 years. Profits are higher than ever. People got to spend more time with their families since hours were no longer wasted commuting and sitting in traffic.

Also seems like many companies use this culture bullshit as a reason to force RTO. Motherfucker. I produce output. You generate capital. You pay me. That’s our fucking relationship. Fuck your “cUlTuRe”.

[–] JFowler369@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Did you have a counter argument for calling bullshit? Because he probably had a point, there is definitely a niche for that level of security. It just generally involves state secrets.

Certain classifications of documents require access only from physically secure locations, called SCIFs, where all access is monitored and logged. Things like phones and cameras aren't allowed to prevent any data leakage.

That's not too say you can't be secure remotely, but really only against outsiders. Good luck stopping an employee from taking a picture with their personal phone of classified blueprints off their monitor at home. Good luck even knowing they did it before the data is gone.

When you factor in social engineering being the most successful type of "hacking", an office setting is undeniably more secure. However, most offices don't need that level of security, because data breaches aren't a matter of national security, so remote is an acceptable risk.

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