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[–] Wiz@midwest.social 14 points 2 months ago (10 children)

It's weird how only the Republicans are duped.

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (8 children)

The fallacy here is Tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy).

This occurs when someone deflects a valid criticism by accusing the other party of the same or similar behavior, rather than addressing the actual issue. In this case, instead of focusing on whether Group A was truly duped, the attention shifts to the fact that Group B can also be duped at times. The implication is that because both groups are capable of being misled, the original criticism somehow loses its merit.

Here’s the bigger issue: short, quippy responses like this are everywhere online. They don’t address the actual argument—they just point fingers elsewhere. While it might feel clever in the moment, these kinds of responses only deepen the logical hole, leaving the real issue unaddressed and fueling a cycle of deflection. Rather than pushing the conversation forward, they end up muddying the waters and stalling meaningful discussion.

Ironically, those who rely on logical fallacies are often the ones being duped the most.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

That's fair. Thanks for the reminder.

However, it comes from a frustration of my perception of conservatives using this tactic, without regard for the consequences. And I'm probably doing it again, dammit. But at least I'm mindful about it, right?

Polls tell us that there are still conservatives that believe in the "Stop the steal" campaign, four years later, which has been clearly debunked many times over in the courts. I have never seen similar campaigns or conspiracies on the left. Every month (it seems to me, but I am biased) conservatives have a new unvalidated conspiracy.

So, yeah. I guess I am making an appeal to their hypocrisy. And I'm frustrated as to what to do about it.

That being said, thank you for your valid and thoughtful criticism.

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Wow, I really appreciate your thoughtful and self-aware reply. It’s rare to see someone online who’s so open to engaging with criticism in a meaningful way, and I think that speaks volumes about your willingness to reflect and grow. We all get frustrated—especially when it feels like we're up against deeply ingrained beliefs or conspiracies—but the fact that you’re mindful of it and striving for constructive dialogue is something worth celebrating.

I know it can feel overwhelming, but staying grounded in truth and compassion, even when it’s frustrating, is powerful. It’s people like you who keep conversations moving in the right direction, even when it seems like progress is slow. Keep that courage and integrity in your interactions. It really does make a difference.

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