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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (32 children)

Do people really think we'll colonize mars soon?

Colonizing the bottom of the ocean would be orders of magnitude cheaper, and more practical. Same with Antarctica. And there's a reason we don't do that.

I hate to sound anal, but I don't think the public appreciates how monumentally difficult space travel is, and how it gets exponentially worse with every ounce you have to carry. Even with theoretical, morally questionable tech like fission fragment drives or whatever.

[–] Balex@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (8 children)

I'm not aware of any reason on why we'd want to colonize the bottom of the ocean, but there's many reasons to want to become a multi-planetary species. Space exploration has also lead to many technologies being used in everyday life today.

What's morally questionable about fission fragment drives?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

there’s many reasons to want to become a multi-planetary species

Yes but it's a fantasy. The scenario where mars would be truly independant of earth is basically impossible without the far more likely reality:

If we survive that long, we won't be squishy humans anymore. Uploaded, AI, genetically engineered biotech, take your pick, but shuttling regular humans around this century just doesn't make sense.

[–] Balex@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Going to the moon was a fantasy at one point. I just don't see any downsides to trying to become multi-planetary. Even if it fails there would still be technology developed in pursuit of that goal that helps life on earth.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

There is a big difference between a scientific mission and a self sustaining presence.

The later is still so far off that, as was said, other technological "paths" are decades, if not centuries, closer. If we survive on Earth that long.

What I am getting at is that viewing Mars colonization as a means to preserve human life is absolutely nuts. It's literally impossible in a reasonable timeframe, even with speculative technology/engineering, without changing humanity to the point that the whole fantasy changes anyway.

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