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I loved Voyager, but I always hard a little bit of a hard time with Neelix.
Neelix was awful, and probably made worse because I wanted to like him from the start.
Without getting into Kes - which compounded the Neelix problem for me - I started to hate him less in the last few seasons when he went all dark sad clown. I was still viscerally annoyed, but he turned into almost a Michael Scott type character. He was horrible, but you could see the the pain that made him that way.
@ArtieShaw @xilliah @TingoTenga Of all the "hospitality" people in ST (Guinan, Quark, Neelix), Neelix was by far the worst. He was just annoying. No wonder poor Tuvok couldn't stand him (and then they got merged :eyeroll: ).
I hadn't even thought about the comparison to Guinan or Quark. The comparison makes Neelix so much worse. Guinan didn't need a redemption arc . Quark had a good one. Neither of them were annoying.
Guinan gained a threatening arc, if anything. The ultra calm, compassionate counselor that scared gods like Q, and could swing a mean rifle when she needed to.