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Could kinda see it frustrating for a group of people surrounded by fire though looking at the equipment that was just sitting there. They are feeling the end of the world a lot more than people who aren’t there and just saying “don’t”.
That’s just cruel and inhumane. Manipulative even. Like a science experiment on behaviour and then acting disappointed someone is going to try to save their own life despite your disapproval. And then still talk like your disapproval about them is the priority for everyone to consider more than their own life.
So those thieves are justified in stealing equipment that could save someone else's life and/or home?
Yeah, no.
It doesn't work that way.
The person you're responding to is basically making the, "steal a loaf of bread to feed your family" argument. It's complicated by the fact that loaf of bread was already reserved for saving others, but it's stupid to act like they're a deranged person without a point.
The desire to not die is a strong one; stronger than logic.
That's a spurious argument here, though. This is like not buying groceries for two months, having the cash to buy groceries, then stealing a loaf of bread to feed the family.
These people shouldn't be there, they're on evacuation order, and they have safe routes to leave. Not one of their lives is in danger that they haven't chosen. But they did choose - to put their property ahead of their own lives, and in stealing fire equipment they're putting their own property ahead of the lives of fire response teams and ahead of all the other properties in the same area. They're willing to have the whole neighborhood burn around them, to cut off safe evacuation routes, all to try and save their own home.
They're engaging in sophistry and misrepresenting the situation to try and make hindering firefighting efforts into something personally justifiable. It isn't.