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[–] bigfoot@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (11 children)

That is a very machivellian attitude. I don't believe that hurting people who aren't a threat in the name of "progress" is justified, even if it were somehow a shortcut to utopia, which it's not.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

All of human political activity boils down to violence. If pacifism were a legitimate strategy then we wouldn't be in our current situation.

[–] bigfoot@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I didn't say anything about pacifism, but I also disagree with your proposition equating violence and politics. Violence is a breakdown of politics. Politics, almost definitionally, is how a people settle disputes without violence.

Politics is how how decisions are made in groups. If one person or group is forcing their will upon others, then no decision or compromise between the parties can be said to have been made freely. And therefore it cannot be truthfully described as following a political process.

[–] luxyr42@lemmy.dormedas.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Diplomacy is settling disputes without violence.

[–] bigfoot@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

It is, but diplomacy refers to disputes between peoples. Politics refers to disputes within a people.

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