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Fuck Elon, and to a lesser extend, Tesla and all. But this seems like yet another user error on several accounts. I thought "autopilot" was only supposed to be used on freeways. And obviously assisted by a human who should have seen a fucking parked cop car coming and intercede anyway.
But that said, fuck Elon and his deceptive naming of a fucking primitive tech that's really only good at staying in a lane at speed under ideal conditions.
It depends on which system they actually had on the vehicle. It's more complicated than random people seem to think. But even with the FSD beta, it specifically tells the driver every time they activate it that they need to pay attention and are still responsible for the vehicle.
Despite what the average internet user seems to think, not all Teslas even have the computer capable of Full Self Driving installed. I'd even say most don't. Most people seem to think that Autopilot and FSD are the same, they're not, and never have been.
There have been 4+ computer systems in use over the years as they've upgraded the hardware and added capabilities in newer software. Autopilot, Enhanced Autopilot, and Full Self Driving BETA are three different systems with different capabilities. Anything bought prior to the very first small public closed beta of FSD a couple years ago would need to be replaced with a new computer to use FSD. Installation cost is included if someone buys FSD outright, or they have to pay for the upgrade if they instead want the subscription. All older Teslas however would be limited to Autopilot and Enhanced Autopilot without that computer upgrade.
The AP and FSD systems are not at all the same, and they use different code. Autopilot is designed and intended for highways and doesn't require the upgraded computer. Autopilot is and always has been effectively just Traffic Aware Cruise Control and Auto steer. Enhanced Autopilot added extra features like Summon, Auto lane change, Navigetc.ate on Autopilot (on-ramp to off-ramp navigation) but has never been intended for city streets. Autopilot itself hasn't really been updated in years, almost all the updates have been to the FSD beta.
The FSD beta is what is being designed for city streets, intersections, etc. and needs that upgraded computer to process everything for that in real time. It uses a different codebase to process data.
Despite what the average internet user seems to think, not all Teslas even have the computer capable of Full Self Driving installed.
Uh.
http://tesla.com/blog/all-tesla-cars-being-produced-now-have-full-self-driving-hardware The Tesla Team, October 19, 2016
Be sure to read the part where it says that as of today, ALL Tesla cars will have the hardware needed for full self-driving at a safety level SUBSTANTIALLY GREATER than that of a human driver.
Also, can people cut the bullshit, Elon is on video suggesting year after year that FSD will take you hundreds of miles without a single intervention.
How does that make sense, that something that performs SUBSTANTIALLY GREATER than a human driver needs constant supervision by the inferior driver? Elon sold FSD as a magical autopilot since 2016, adding "Supervised" to the label like 3 months ago doesn't suddenly put the blame on the people who believed the lie.
You seem to have missed the simple fact that there are cars produced prior to that. And the fact that the hardware announced there also wasn't enough on its own. There were additional changes in 2019 to a newer computer necessary for FSD. My 2018 Model 3 has that hardware, but I cannot get FSD without a computer upgrade. Not to mention even older vehicles that can't even accept the new computer hardware.
So yeah, not ALL Teslas in the road are capable of FSD.
Dude, talk about missing the point. I wasn't the one who claimed all Teslas after 2016 were capable of Autopilot. ELON MUSK made that claim.. you aren't saying I'm Elon, right, because that's pretty insulting.
Elon made the claim. He called his product Autopilot and then Full Self Driving. He got up on stage and released videos claiming the cars could drive hundreds of miles without an intervention. He released faked videos. He's truly a con man for the ages.
Dude, no, you're trying to change the point. My claim wasn't time-specific, your link has nothing to do with the actual conversation in this comment thread. I said that the average person thinks ALL Teslas are capable of FSD, and that is factually incorrect, there are Teslas on the road that cannot do FSD,
Your link is about cars made after X date, you're changing the conversation to fit the narrative you actually want. Even if we go by that date though, that's what they thought at the time, it was later determined that yet another computer upgrade would actually be required, hence the 2019 date for actual FSD compatibility as it was rolled out to the closed public beta. Vehicles made in that middle ground get the computer upgrade for free if the owner purchases FSD.
My car, made in 2018, cannot do FSD without a computer upgrade, so it is not capable of FSD as is despite being made after 2016. The rest of the hardware is compatible but it needs a newer brain. Some vehicles older than mine (older Model S/X) aren't even able to get an upgraded computer and will NEVER be FSD capable. So factually, not ALL Teslas on the road can do FSD. End of conversation.