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I am genuinely confused by hexbear's opinion on the Ukraine war (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 3 months ago by mozz@mbin.grits.dev to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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What I have learned:

Russia has already won the Ukraine war
Which NATO started
A lot of people in the West think that Ukraine should surrender
Also Ukraine was the world's main provider of CSAM
Also Ukraine is exploited by the West but if they can unite with Russia then their economy and everything else will finally be alright

It's literally like a bizarro world and everyone is over there agreeing with it. I'm genuinely confused by, who even are these people (what is the mixture of Russian bots / Russian-aligned ordinary people / confused Westerners / some other explanation.)

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 63 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (27 children)

There is no rhyme or reason. Misinformation preys on what it can, it is an opportunist. The beliefs do not have to agree with each other so long as they affirm one's bias.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 38 points 3 months ago (26 children)

It's just so... weird.

Like it seems like they genuinely believe it. I can't see that it's useful to have a whole server of propaganda-bots all just talking to each other; it seems like probably some decent number of them are real actual people.

I feel like I have a pretty good handle at this point on why people hold weird political opinions on the internet, but the whole "Russia's the best, Russia's totally winning the war, anything and everything in the Western media is lies, RT and SCMP are the only things you can trust" viewpoint is still a mystery to me. The best thing that I can come up with is that it's a sort of little self strengthening propaganda-box like some authoritarian religions -- like "every source that doesn't agree with me is lying, don't believe them" and a few other key principles that make it hard to break your way out of once you're in it. But I don't know. Like I say I can't figure it out.

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