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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 10 points 6 months ago (6 children)

This is -- unironically -- the only pro Trump viewpoint I have ever encountered that ever made sense to me.

I was arguing IRL with a group of central Asian people about US politics, and they said more or less, I just know Obama did all sorts of bombing and drone strikes and sanctions, and I know ever since it's been Trump he's been pulling the US military out of places and we've finally been able to get some good stuff done. I like Trump, Biden's gonna support Israel and all sorts of other enemies to us and so fuck him, we like Trump.

Honestly? I couldn't even say anything. Like yes, if you're aligned more or less against the United States, then Trump is probably a good thing. I definitely don't agree with it -- their definition of "good stuff" wasn't one I agreed with, and there are plenty of people who are very very bad people who also are not on the same side as the US. I don't think that it would be a good thing letting Russia crush Ukraine or China crush Taiwan or any other little minor massacre on the world stage that we're preventing instead of causing for once. But, if you're telling me that's your viewpoint and why you support Trump, I definitely won't say you are wrong.

[–] blargerer@kbin.social 10 points 6 months ago

Its hard to do an apples to apples comparison, because like conflicts change. But Trump dropped more bombs per year than Obama did. The number under him also sharply increased for his first year and than decreased year by year after.

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