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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/20749204

Another positive step in the right direction for an organization rife with brokenness. There's a lot I don't like about the organization, but this is something a love--a scouting organization open to young women and the lgbtq community. The next step is being inclusive of nonreligious agnostic and atheist youth and leaders. As well as ending the cultural appropriation of Native American peoples.

May this organization continue to build up youth, never allow further violence against youth, and make amends for all the wrongs. There's a lot of good that comes out of organizations like this and I won't discount it even though it's riddled with a dark history.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago (17 children)

I am a Satanist; although it's religious, it's also explicitly atheistic. Per your blog, "By signing the membership application, each leader has already acknowledged the Declaration of Religious Principle which affirms a belief in God [...]". While I could quite truthfully say that I acknowledge myself as my own god, I do not believe in God, and I can not honestly affirm that I believe a belief in any external god to be necessary in order to be a good person and citizen.

"A scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent"; I can't be trustworthy without also being wholly honest, including that I don't believe in an external god. "On my honor, I will do my best, to god and my country, to uphold the Scout law, and to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight"; how could I say this without being deceptive? I know that the 'god' they're referring to is a deity outside of myself, and it wouldn't be moral for me to swear to this without also believing in some form of external deity.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (11 children)

When your religion is defined by denial and opposition to all other religions, then it probably isn't welcome where religious tolerance is a requirement.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Sorry, are you talking about Christianity?

Or were you talking about Islam?

Oh, wait, no, probably Hinduism.

[–] CompN12@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 6 months ago

Nah, surely Mormonism.

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