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There are no ethical choices under first-past-the-post voting. We must instead make a decision that reduces the most harm.

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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 6 months ago (21 children)

What population of people outside of your country is going to be “saved” by a round-2 Biden ticket exactly?..

People living in Ukraine, Gaza, and Taiwan to name a few. Also everyone in countries in Europe besides Ukraine. In fact most of the countries of the world, because authoritarian dictatorships will carve the world into spheres of influence. To be clear, dictators will be killing millions of people in their spheres of influence with genocides and ethnic cleansings.

You can’t possibly believe in the man taking >$5.5M from Israel to run the Palestinian state into the dirt, right?

Do you mean giving to? If we're still talking about Biden then I believe he will do the least harm.

You Can’t Be Neutral on a Moving Train

This supports my argument as I am arguing we need to pick the side that will do the least harm. There is no way to be neutral with FPTP voting.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 months ago (19 children)

People living in Ukraine, Gaza, and Taiwan to name a few.

Ukraine's war will continue regardless.

The Palestinian genocide will continue regardless.

Taiwan isn't under any threat of being killed by the millions at the moment, so I'm not even sure how he would "save" them?..

Do you mean giving to?

No 😂. Look up a list of the most "donations" taken from Israel by any political candidate. Did you genuinely not look into things like this before defending him with a shitty Sonic meme?

This supports my argument

This is also wrong. You are allowing genocide to continue by agreeing with the current status-quo. Acting like voting in the same man taking in millions to kill over 100,000 brown people (most of which are women and children) will somehow SAVE Palestine (I noticed you used "Gaza" there by mistake, nbd I fixed that for you) is so painfully ignorant it just has to be on purpose.

Stop drinking the state-narrative kool-aid you dork.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (13 children)

Ukraine’s war will continue regardless.

No, Russia will conquer Ukraine if someone doesn't support them. Trump isn't going to support Ukraine. Biden will.

The Palestinian genocide will continue regardless.

No, Trump will encourage Israel to finish the genocide.

Taiwan isn’t under any threat of being killed by the millions at the moment, so I’m not even sure how he would “save” them?..

From China who famously wants to invade Taiwan.

No 😂. Look up a list of the most “donations” taken from Israel by any political candidate. Did you genuinely not look into things like this before defending him with a shitty Sonic meme?

Oh, you meant donations he received. Yeah, most US politicians have through AIPAC. I had no idea what you were talking about.

This is also wrong. You are allowing genocide to continue by agreeing with the current status-quo. Acting like voting in the same man taking in millions to kill over 100,000 brown people (most of which are women and children) will somehow SAVE Palestine (I noticed you used “Gaza” there by mistake, nbd I fixed that for you) is so painfully ignorant it just has to be on purpose.

No, Trump will encourage Israel to finish the genocide. All Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank, and Israel will be killed. Gaza is just one part of Palestine, not the whole thing. edit: typo

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 months ago

I actually drink a lot of Kool-Aid with Stevia In the Raw. It helps me stay hydrated. My favorite is the Sharkleberry Fin flavor.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

^ what it looks like when a both-sideser gets cornered, folks!

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The lot of you are going to be so surprised when your posturing leaves you confused/scared under the dumb orange man:

Why go further left when you can shoot yourself in the foot and go further right?

It didn't warrant a response because, again, it's entirely state-narrative dribble coupled with an army of upvote-bots.

Voting for 99% fascism over 100% fascism isn't really the "gotcha" you think it is ;)

In regards to the Palestinian state, they likely won't even be alive by the time Biden loses, so it's really a moot point regardless..

Enjoy the fall comrades ✌️

[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

We won't be confused, we'll know people like you allowed it to happen.

If you think throwing away your vote means going further left, then I have a bridge to sell you.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Legit nobody has correctly identified why the people in this thread are completely avoiding using the word "Palestine" and are instead using "Gaza."

You're either a bot (AI profile picture, so it seems fairly likely), or you're posturing for whomever is paying you to sit in that chair and flame lefties instead of actually, idk, changing the policies of your genocidal party.

No mate, you will be why it falls.

2016 round-2-electric-boogaloo is going to suck for those of you dumb enough to remain in your doomed country after all of this shit.

Enjoy the fall comrades ✌️

[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Legit nobody has correctly identified why the people in this thread are completely avoiding using the word "Palestine" and are instead using "Gaza."

Lmao the person you couldn't argue against did exactly that.

Imagine you spent the effort you are here petulantly calling me a bot trying to spin up an actual counter-argument.

Your little head would probably explode.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

🥱

Still waiting on that counter-argument, both-sideser.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Genuinely no sense in replying to the dorks who state:

I had no idea what you were talking about.

like ToastedPlanet did 😆.

There is a reason the Lemmy.world VPN-ban killed so many of your bots, and that is exactly why you had to move on to Blahaj.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Genuinely no sense in replying

🥱

Oldest cop-out in the book. But certainly the best the tiny both-sideser brain can come up with.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago

Everyone that disagrees with me is a bot

🥱

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