this post was submitted on 01 May 2024
1027 points (95.4% liked)

Political Memes

5511 readers
437 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 42 points 7 months ago (43 children)

I get the feeling most of the critics to this post don't actually live in the US. When it's you, your family and your friends in danger of being shipped off to the death camps, no amount of philosophical masturbation matters in comparison.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm trans and live in the US, I just also have an actual spine.

The way people talk about Palestinians today is the way they'll talk about trans people tomorrow. Based on the logic of lesser-evilism, if the next election comes down to a democrat who wants to genocide trans people, and a republican who wants to genocide trans people and some other group(s), then you'll deploy the exact same arguments about supporting "lesser genocide." No one is safe once we accept this logic, at that point it's all about trying to shift to target onto another group's back to protect yourself.

Solidarity isn't just about doing the right thing, it's a practical survival strategy. It's about different groups banding together and recognizing that an attack on one is an attack on all, and that no amount of genocide towards any group is acceptable.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

How are you blind to the fact that Republicans currently want to genocide trans folk...

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Because they're delusional. There are some love letters to China in their history. I guess genocide is fine if it's against Uighurs, huh?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

objection

I guess genocide is fine if it’s against Uighurs, huh?

Do you have any evidence to support this testimony?

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Get a clue, buddy. "I'm trans and Biden bad, China good." So you do support genocide.

The weird part is you think having Donald win will turn the US into communism instead of a capitalist authoritarian hellscape. Or, I suppose you think that will topple America so that "Socialism with Chinese characteristics" can expand across the world?

Protip, genius: the "Chinese characteristics" are capitalism. They still have billionaires.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -4 points 7 months ago

So you do support genocide.

objection

Do you have any evidence to support this testimony?

The weird part is you think having Donald win will turn the US into communism

objection

I oppose Donald Trump for the exact same reasons I've stated for opposing Joe Biden... because he supports genocide!

Protip, genius: the “Chinese characteristics” are capitalism. They still have billionaires.

Hold it!

Are you saying that you consider Deng's market reforms to be a right-wing deviation, and that you support hard-line Maoism?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

objection

I'm not "blind" to that at all! I'm fully aware of it!

I'd rather die as someone who opposed genocide, than live as someone who didn't phoenix-objection-1phoenix-objection-2

In the long run, if minority groups are being picked off one by one, and Democrats keep following Republicans to the right, then... it's inevitable that we'll be targeted sooner or later!

No one who supports genocide for political expediency will ever have my back! How could it be politically advantageous to stick their neck out for such a small minority? There's only one way: if different minorities band together and treat an attack on one as an attack on all!

And that means zero tolerance for genocide!

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Being Complicit with the Genocide of Transfolks IS NOT having Zero Tolerance for Genocide

Furthermore, Its a hell of alot harder for minorities to band together when they are actively being genocided. Voting for the lesser of two evils allows for that Solidarity to form and expand. Voting will never directly bring about Socialism in America, but voting can give the working class time for Class Conciousness to form that will inevitably lead to that outcome.

Voting IS NOT a purity test, it is a dirty tool that must be used until other tools can be put in place to allow the workers to seize the means of production.

load more comments (42 replies)