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[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

because I can go 600 miles on one tank the US

With what car? There are a handful of diesels that can go that far. They don't get sold in the US. There's also a handful of hybrids that can.

You don't need 600 miles of range. Driving more than 2-4 hours at a stretch is just silly. Your bladder and appetite won't last that long. There are also health and mental focus issues with going longer than that. We don't need to be catering to a handful of people who like to pee in a bottle and eat sandwiches they prepared ahead of time. For the sake of both themselves and the safety of people around them on the highway, they should stop doing that.

At 70mph, that's 140 to 280 miles. Add an additional 30% because you want to float between the 10 and 80 percent marks on the battery. Add 20% for cold weather. That gets you to, at most, 380 miles. There are EVs that can already do that, and lots more that are close.

What we need is better charging infrastructure. Lots more L3 stations, and lots more L2 stations at places you're going to tend to stay at for a while (like hotels and event parking).

[–] bradboimler@startrek.website -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

Okay but I am 2 hours from any public charging that's the point no charging at work or anywhere close that is the point. And there are plenty of gas cars that can go 600 miles not just diesel.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

So in other words:

What we need is better charging infrastructure. Lots more L3 stations, and lots more L2 stations at places you’re going to tend to stay at for a while (like hotels and event parking).

Existing range will be fine if we solve this.

Most cars with 600+ miles range in the US are hybrids. There is also one Jag diesel (which apparently is sold in the US). In Europe, there's things like the Mini Cooper 1.5L diesel, but cars like that don't get sold in the US due to emissions requirements.

[–] bradboimler@startrek.website -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Still won't make them affordable I got my car for $23,000 until a ev can be bought at that price its a no go for me and no not a hybrid my car just has a 18 gallon tank on it holds allot of gas.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's expected to happen with in the next year or two. The prices of battery metals have plunged.

[–] bradboimler@startrek.website -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We shall see because the have been saying that for years never happens

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 7 months ago

When materials cost plunges and there's plenty of competition, what else would happen? This isn't the result of some lab breakthrough that may or may not make it into mass production. It's a measurable thing the market uses right now.

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