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[–] S_204@lemm.ee 43 points 7 months ago (17 children)

The UN is a captured organization. It no longer serves its purpose, and is now an arm of the oil producing countries state departments more than anything. I don't have a good suggestion for what to replace it with but it's sure AF not worthy of being respected any longer.

[–] NotAtWork@startrek.website 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The UN's purpose is

"To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace, and to bring about by peaceful means, and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, adjustment or settlement of international disputes or situations which might lead to a breach of the peace;"- United Nations Charter, Chapter I: Article 1: Section 1

the other sections reference international friendship and equal rights, but section 1 is the meat f why it exists, the UN was created after two World Wars, it's primary goal is to prevent a third and has so far been overwhelmingly successful.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think peace through submission was the original goal here though is the point

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Kinda was. That's why the UK and France have a permanent seat on the UNSC but Germany and Japan categorically do not.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah peace through making the bad guys submit. Not rolling over and just letting them take whatever they want because "well if we actually did anything it would cause a scene"

Like a cop seeing someone break a law and going "wow that sure sounds like a lot of paperwork" and them walking away

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We've avoided world wars by allowing conflicts to fester around the globe. I'd be curious whether the death toll would be higher had there been a world war, but I guess there's still plenty of people left to die in forgotten places like Sudan so the calculation will have to wait.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Pretty sure the fallout from WW3 is gonna hurt everyone everywhere...war in Sufan is still a pretty long way off from a death toll in the billions.

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