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‘He was understandably frustrated and distraught by the present and on-going erosions to our constitutionally protected freedoms and the rights of free citizens’

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[–] sparseMatrix@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago (26 children)

There are a lot of people who would like you to think that disinformation is harmless; that if you buy into bullshit that it's your own fault; and that the 'people that matter' know the truth.

This man bought into the fire hose of shit that is continuously, endlessly spewing a mixture of exaggerations, half truths and outright lies. He took it all very seriously, and he paid with his life.

Ask yourself, do you think this man was one of the 'people who matter' to his family? It sounds like some of them agree with, and listened to him and the fire hose.

This is a fucking tragedy. This man is a casualty of the fight for democracy, and it is a damn fight when people are getting shot for it. Not because he bought into some bullshit; but because he was fed a line of shit by people he trusted. His political party.

This has got to stop, and I think that it surely will.

Let's hope it doesn't have to be at the expense of another man's life.

Another husband, father, grandfather, uncle or brother. Or worse, whole families.

[–] kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.social 31 points 1 year ago (24 children)

@sparseMatrix
Choosing whom to trust (& listen to) is a moral choice, much more so than a political or philosophical choice.

Fam saying “he would never” are lying or naïve. He pointed a gun @ FBI agents. He would never?! Oh yes he fucking would, because he fucking did.

Rule # 1: Never point a weapon @ anything you don’t intend to destroy.

Repeated regularly by 2A folks.

He chose amoral violence, tragically. A greater tragedy will be if his fam&friends consider him a martyr.

[–] kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@sparseMatrix
Other than that bit, I agree with you.

Not that I’m a believer anymore, but the disinformation bit reminds me of the millstone mentioned in Mark 9:42

[–] sparseMatrix@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

@kelvin0mql

It's possible to draw parallels like that ~~everywhere~~ all over the bible; and it's not because of 'omg prophesy'

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One thing I think is going on is that a lot of people in the western world have been raised to expect Armageddon sometime during their lifetime, and because they feel like they are on the right side they are attempting to accelerate that Armageddon because they think that happiness and Paradise are just on the other side of it.

It's like being told as soon as you finish this chore you're going to get a tasty treat. If you really want the treat you're going to work harder and faster to get the chore done sooner, right?

There's only one line in the Bible and I don't remember where it is that cautions people against attempting to accelerate the end of times because they don't really know what it's actually going to be like and they're only leading themselves to their own destruction but just like everything else in the Bible, because every single word is supposed to be important, that warning has just slipped through the cultural cracks.

[–] sparseMatrix@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@Bizarroland

@kelvin0mql

You are saying something I've been saying for years. In fact, it was my parent's generation who I saw anticipating armaggeddon, and they expected it in the year 2000. It's what the lyrics of 'Party Like It's 1999' are all about.

I get the idea that when it didn't happen that way, it surprised a lot of them, and eventually pissed off a bunch of them. They felt like they'd been cheated out of the second coming, or something.

While my parents are passed now, and didn't really share the perspective anyway, I think there are still a bunch of these grizzled old assholes around, ready to see it all burn before they croak, just so they can be around when it happened.

[–] btaf45@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

In fact, it was my parent's generation who I saw anticipating armaggeddon, and they expected it in the year 2000. It's what the lyrics of 'Party Like It's 1999' are all about.

We didn't expect shit. It's just a song dude.

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

It's in the realm of "Self-Fulfilling Prophecy" at this point. If God won't do it, we'll just make our own Armageddon with internet greed and hypocrisy.

[–] kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@sparseMatrix
I was @ Wendy’s abt 12y ago. Mostly empty. Dude 10’ away blustering to his daughter about those “Slow… Children At Play” signs/markers people put at the end of their driveway. “They’re illegal! They can’t put up signs the city didn’t put up. I’m gonna run ‘em over!”

His back was to me, so his daughter could see me flip him off. She briefly smirked, but he didn’t see it. I did her a great service that day.

[–] invno1@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

/r/thathappened

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