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A US appeals court Saturday paved the way for a California law banning the concealed carry of firearms in “sensitive places” to go into effect January 1, despite a federal judge’s ruling that it is “repugnant to the Second Amendment.”

The law – Senate Bill 2 – had been blocked last week by an injunction from District Judge Cormac Carney, but a three-judge panel filed an order Saturday temporarily blocking that injunction, clearing the path for the law to take effect.

The court issued an administrative stay, meaning the appeals judges did not consider the merits of the case, but delayed the judge’s order to give the court more time to consider the arguments of both sides. “In granting an administrative stay, we do not intend to constrain the merits panel’s consideration of the merits of these appeals in any way,” the judges wrote.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (128 children)

I'm sure gun people will be pissed at me for this, but wanting to have a concealed gun on you doesn't really make much sense to me if guns are supposed to be a deterrent. You aren't deterring anyone with your gun if no one knows you have it. Shouldn't you want to wear it where everyone can see it so they know not to try anything funny?

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (13 children)

I don't think guns are supposed to be a deterrent. Someone running to mug you isn't thinking clearly about the possible complications or repercussions.

A carried gun is a commitment to kill someone before you are killed in a life or death situation. Not too feel cool or show off, or brandish as a warning.

Plus if you dress like a cowboy, someone might try to mug you FOR that gun, making you a bigger target.

That's all pretty heavy, and the odds are low that you'd encounter that situation. So not a lot of people are willing to complicate their lives for it.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (12 children)

A carried gun is a commitment to kill someone before you are killed in a life or death situation. Not too feel cool or show off, or brandish as a warning.

In what world are you living in where someone comes up to you with a gun, in an attempt to kill you and you have time to remove your gun from wherever you're concealing it, remove the safety and aim it before the person trying to kill you can kill you?

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It certainly happens.

Just last week I saw a video where a man ran up with a gun to start a robbery. A woman whipped a handgun out of her purse and shot him.

The idea that personal firearms can't be used for self defense is a silly argument.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

If I know the video you're talking about, it's an off-duty cop from brazil.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A robbery isn't an attempt to kill you.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's no different, both scenarios are threats to your life until the point the trigger is pulled (then it goes from threat to attempt).

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

I mean I literally said attempt in my comments so....

And basically anything can be a "threat" to your life. But I doubt even an American would agree with shooting someone because they cut you off in traffic.

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