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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It cannot be argued in good faith. Talking about the presidency as an office has been a thing forever, and therefore the president is an officer. He's also an officer just by the plain meaning of the word officer. I never heard one peep to the contrary until people started looking for a way for Trump to weasel his way out of the 14th amendment.

[–] Dippy@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

It’s all up to interpretation though, you might not see it, or you might have heard it in a way, but it can be argued. Similar to the lower court judge saying so.

Similarly one of the judge points out in the dissenting opinion there is no conviction of insurrection.

So I still think C will win, but A or B is a possibility too.

"In the absence of an insurrection-related conviction, I would hold that a request to disqualify a candidate under Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment is not a proper cause of action under Colorado’s election code. Therefore, I would dismiss the claim at issue here”

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I see it just fine. I reject it as a bad faith argument. Any judge who entertains it is showing how corrupt they are.

Pointing to a lack of a conviction, OTOH, is at least a reasonable argument not based on pretending not to understand what words mean.

[–] Dippy@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yea fair enough. Just a different set of eyes is all. Thanks for the response!

The lack of conviction is prolly the biggest hurdle here which makes me wonder who would, or even could, bring those charges (even if the lower court explicitly stated he did). Jack smith has his hands full and while interesting to follow it’s not a direct case of questioning insurrection. Curious as to where it all leads.

End of the day, it starts to ask the question, which prolly ends at the Supreme Court no matter what.