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A lot can happen in a year when you're the world's largest hot or not clone. Here's everything toxic Meta's companies did in 2023 (Facebook, Instagram, Threads, Meta Quest, Oculus and WhatsApp).

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[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Reasons not to federate with threads

[–] Rizoid@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Preemptive defeding I think is bad. You can't convince people to move to better options if you never have a chance to interact with them in the first place. Obviously there may be reason to defed in the future but to do it prematurely is a mistake that will isolate the fediverse in a way that is uninviting to new people unfamiliar with the space.

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 9 points 11 months ago

As long as they're federated, they can track your movements. The fediverse doesn't need Meta to be successful. And if it can somehow gain benefit from it, that will then become a weakness that Meta will exploit.

It's not a question of if meta will fuck the fediverse over, but how and when. Pre-emptive defederation is the best way to mitigate those effects. You've seen their track record, the time of "benefit of the doubt" is long gone.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

We don't need to convince anyone to do anything. The network effect is what matters - the larger the network, the more useful it is, which makes social media a natural monopoly. The way we beat them is by having a more robust network that doesn't enshittify and retains users long term. Eventually people will realise that Threads is worse because most of the rest of the network has excluded them. They'll find their way here.

We can defederate for any reason. If people don't like it, they can go elsewhere, but if that means they're joining a smaller, shittier network, well, I guess that means they've chosen the less popular option. It's up to them.