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[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago (12 children)

It can in theory be disproved - if we ever manage to prove that universe is deterministic, free will by definition cannot exist.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What is the definition of free will that is only possible in a non-deterministic universe? Is non-determinism the only requirement for a universe to qualify as having free will?

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

What is the definition of free will that is only possible in a non-deterministic universe?

If the universe is deterministic, every particle has a mathematically determinable path, meaning you can fully predict where each particle will be in a billion years. Our thoughts and everything are carried by neurons in our brain, as is our will. So if the universe is deterministic, every neuron had to fire at exactly the same moment it did and it could've never happened otherwise, meaning every thought and action is predetermined.

Is non-determinism the only requirement for a universe to qualify as having free will?

No idea.

[–] elegantgoat1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is non-determinism the only requirement for a universe to qualify as having free will?

He's not making any claims about that argument. He is saying that determinism implies no free will.

Edit: meant to reply to Chicken.

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