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[–] Armen12@lemm.ee 56 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I love how a country is allowed to just get away with killing children and UN workers and doctors and journalists but we condemn countries that do the same thing like Russia. It makes no sense that Israel should get a free pass, all it does is expose a huge double standard

[–] sqgl@beehaw.org 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

False equivalence.

Russia bombed Kiev for the hell of it, not even pretending there was a military objective. Russia also is conscripting Ukrainians to fight against their fellow countrymen as cannon-fodder on the front line. It is kidnapping children into Russia.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We could go an have a piss-fight between the warcrimes of Russia and the warcrimes of Israel.

The US can be the bad guy in one conflict while be on the good side on another. Imperialism is bad, whether it's Russia or the US doing it.

Also, Hamas are war criminals as well. No good guys fighting there ATM.

[–] sqgl@beehaw.org 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The whole point of the article is Biden criticizing Israel for going too far in their mission to eradicate Hamas. He even criticized US for invading Afghanistan.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

No good guys fighting there ATM.

IDF are the good guys, just like the Ukrainian army is. That doesn't mean that every single individual in either army are angels or that every operation is virtuous, just that their overall intentions are just.

An important question: What would the world look like if these guys won versus if they lost?

[–] idiocracy@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm positively surprised ur not downvoted to hell for saying that I must say

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are no downvotes on Beehaw.

[–] idiocracy@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

ohhhh that makes total sense now thanks!

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Perhaps majority of the people who hate my comments about Israel vs Hamas have already blocked me

[–] idiocracy@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

that was funny and I thank u for that :D

[–] Zworf@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

IMO the only "good guys" fighting there are the civilians "fighting" to survive. Not Hamas and not the IDF. Neither care about the innocent.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

all it does is expose a huge double standard

No, a simple unistandard. I'll illustrate with a meme.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isreal's main exports are cutting-edge technology found nowhere else in the world. Russia's main export is oil. Western and European Union countries were fine getting their oil elsewhere, but they absolutely do not want to give up advanced tech. Especially since there will always be other countries that don't care and will continue trading anyway.

[–] sqgl@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Israel ain't Taiwan. What tech do you think is indispensable there?

[–] scorpionix@feddit.de 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mostly software based tech. Israel is leading in the field of "legal" spyware for example.

[–] sqgl@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

You have a point there.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bioscience and Military tech are also fields Isreali companies excel at.

[–] sqgl@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I often hear of Bioscience "breakthroughs" from Israel which amount to nothing but hype.

What military tech apart from Iron Dome? (which protects against crappy home made rockets)

[–] idiocracy@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

search for Israeli Nobel prize winners.

and multiple countries want to have their hand on iron dome including Ukraine so where ur going with this?

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 1 points 2 years ago

Russia has the right to self defense.

Do you condemn NATO?

/s