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Tesla Cybertruck's stiff structure, sharp design raise safety concerns - experts::The angular design of Tesla's Cybertruck has safety experts concerned that the electric pickup truck's stiff stainless-steel exoskeleton could hurt pedestrians and cyclists.

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[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Unless I'm mistaken, crumpling is meant to protect the driver and passengers. Not pedestrians, cyclists, or anyone else outside the vehicle.

[–] yamsham@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

To an extent it’s both. I mean intent-wise it’s all about the occupants of the car, but as a side effect it also slightly reduces the impact on the pedestrian. The way I would think about it is that crumple zones on their own aren’t nearly enough to protect pedestrians, but removing them would be going completely in the wrong direction

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

No, not to an extent.

Crumpling does nothing for a person getting hit by a car. Please stop spreading bullshit.

[–] yamsham@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

From a physics perspective, yes it does. Not much, but yes it does do something.

In order for a crumple zone to work, the material must be at least slightly softer than the rest of the structure. When you have a collision, both the strong structure and the relatively weak crumple zones will flex, but the crumple zones will flex more. In a big collision, like with another car, they might flex so much they have permanent damage (the crumple), but even with a pedestrian they will flex a little. The more they flex, the more it cushions the impact for both the pedestrian and the occupants of the car.

As I said, the amount of cushion for the two parties is massively skewed in favor of the car, and crumple zones alone are not anywhere near enough to make cars safe for pedestrians. But objectively, yes they do slightly cushion the impact for a pedestrian, and in the perfect edge case collision it might mean the difference between life and death.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

From a physics perspective, people don’t exist.

We’re talking about the human outcomes of being hit by a car with a crumple zone. Zero benefit.

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