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[–] nevemsenki@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (5 children)

The masses are pretty okay with the war, though. Not happy, but certainly not disgruntled enough to do something either.

[–] janAkali@lemmy.one 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

There've been protests, riots, violent acts of protest at draft centers. This just doesn't get as much coverage as Putin's or US propaganda.

It's not that masses not disgruntled enough. It's just almost nothing people can do to stop the war. Would you do something stupid and worthless, when even a social media post can and will cost you portion of your life in prison?

[–] mindlight@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Russia has a population is around 140 million... As for now around 300000 Russian soldiers have been wounded or killed. That's like... 0.2% of the Russian population. With a father, mother, sibling, wife and friends affected with a wounded or killed Russian soldier the percentage of involuntarily negatively affected people would reach beyond 1%.

How big were the wild protests did you say? Did 20% of the population take part in protesting, maybe not because of the innocent people if Ukraina but for the extreme amount of casualties affecting Russian families in this unprovoked aggression? No? Not 20%?

10%?

5%?

Maybe we should just conclude that the majority of the Russian people are not willing to sacrifice anything of their own for the sake of justice...

Because that's where democracy and justice most often starts:

You sacrificing something that benefits you for the rights and/or justice of another person.

[–] T4UTV1S@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think it's funny that you think any country will have even 5% of their population actually come out and protest ANYTHING.

I did some googling and in the US, the 2017 women's march was the largest march in US history with a whopping... 1.7% population participation.

And yes, there are some protests that had a big portion of their populations come out. Take 2019-2020 Hong Kong protests. Roughly 2 million people came out and protested, roughly over a quarter of the population. And you know what happened? Nothing. People were beaten, died, and China still got Hong Kong. And this was while there was still some local control of HK. Keep in mind, this is a people DEFENDING THEIR COUNTRY from an effective HOSTILE TAKEOVER and they got a quarter. A war taking .2%? Even if 1% were impacted, there's no shot people are going to risk protesting when the world is doing that for them.

[–] mindlight@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

I think it's funny that you failed to understand what I wrote and couldn't let go of the 5 percent.....

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