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The Brazilian police were wrong and completely overreacted to the situation, to me it’s like they were almost looking for it. There have been a few instances of Brazilian police going OTT with footy fans and it needs to be discussed.
At the same time, Argentina fans were racist, have been racist in the past and show no sign of stopping their racism. They also need to dealt with properly by FIFA, this is a consistent issue.
Both Side-ISM is only credible when there is Equivalence.
There is none in this case. What some idiot said to another fan resulting in mass Police violence is NOT Both-Side did wrong X domain stuff.
Bad-ness exists on a gradient. If your solution to resolving that so called Bad (racist exchange) leads to what happened, then your solution is not only wank but itself a higher order of criminal than the original freaking Bad-exchange that started this (IF it is what happened).
Who said that? I said both actions are wrong but I never said they are related. I don’t believe the Brazilian of police action is justified even if racist remarks are made.
I also don’t believe Argentine fans should get away with their racism because some other Argentine fans were attacked.
Your comments do that here because weightage isn't accounted for.
It's often also a trope in media articles where they write 10 paragraphs of what is wrong and then 2nd last paragraph is a passing reference to what likely is okay/good.
Which would be fair IF there was Equivalence in that Good and those 8 paragraphs of Bad.
One has to clarify the DEGREE when using terms like "Both Sides did Wrong". It is not a given because a Given implies there IS Equivalence.