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[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As a citizen of US you bear responsibility for what your country does. People in US directly benefit from the global plundering and exploitation that US does, and unless you're actively working on changing that then you are part of the system that enables these atrocities.

I don't enable anything. I am stripped of my power on purpose so I can't stop this. I have no choice, there is absolutely nothing I can do. Its completely absurd that you think I can just go fix it. How do you suppose I do that exactly? Not only can I not stop it, but it does not benefit me. It benefits a very small minority of Americans who have infinitely more power and money than I do.

You just admitted that you live in an oppressive authoritarian regime, but you completely believe what it tells you about China?

My news sources are not the american government. I have the freedom to get real information unlike citizens of China.

That's the country that oppresses its people, and you're right that it's not even a competition because China doesn't do anything of the sort.

You seriously think China doesn't oppress its people at all? I can't even fathom the amount of evidence you have to disregard to believe that.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don’t enable anything. I am stripped of my power on purpose so I can’t stop this. I have no choice, there is absolutely nothing I can do. Its completely absurd that you think I can just go fix it. How do you suppose I do that exactly? Not only can I not stop it, but it does not benefit me. It benefits a very small minority of Americans who have infinitely more power and money than I do.

That's completely false. You can spend time learning about the atrocities US commits, and educating others. You can start organizing politically within your community or join an existing organization that likely exists. How do you think people have overthrown other oppressive regimes, there's nothing unique about the US. What enables this monstrosity to perpetuate is precisely you kind of attitude that there is nothing that can be done. The country is its people, and as long as people are willing to accept what their regime is doing the horrors continue.

My news sources are not the american government. I have the freedom to get real information unlike citizens of China.

LMFAO

You seriously think China doesn’t oppress its people at all? I can’t even fathom the amount of evidence you have to disregard to believe that.

I seriously don't think that China oppresses people in any way that's even remotely comparable to the way US oppresses its people as well as people all around the globe. I'm really curious how you formed your strong opinions regarding China. Have you lived in China, do you speak Chinese language, do you talk to people who actually live there?

[–] g7s@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ay dude, you are really a chinese bot, arnt you? So much astroturfing, don't ya got any hobbies, expect licking Xijingpings dick, online everyday?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Imagine being a grown ass adult and writing this comment. Maybe go outside and think hard about life choices you've made.

[–] g7s@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Imagine spending all day defending China and Russia online. Are you even Chinese? If so, maybe you should leave for a while, and see how the world is behind the great firewall

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

LMFAO

What are you laughing at? Try accessing a website not endorsed by the CCP inside China, see what happens.

How do you think people have overthrown other oppressive regimes, there's nothing unique about the US.

Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize all I had to do was overthrow my government. All this time I thought it was effectively impossible because any movement against them would be extinguished without a second thought by the ridiculously powerful US military.

You go against the US, you die. There is no overthrowing them, not for the time being anyway. How naive are you that you think I am 100% in control of my overlords. If I tried anything, I would die and nothing would change. I don't think its worth throwing away my life to make absolutely no difference.

If you are so fucking stupid that you would blame me for the US's crimes that I had nothing to do with, then I don't see any point in arguing with you more.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What are you laughing at? Try accessing a website not endorsed by the CCP inside China, see what happens.

I'm laughing at you thinking that your oligarch owned media is somehow more objective than state media, the fact that you don't even know how to spell CPC says a lot about the information diet you consume. Entire books have been written on the subject of public opinion manipulation by western media. Here are a couple you might want to read

Oh I’m sorry I didn’t realize all I had to do was overthrow my government. All this time I thought it was effectively impossible because any movement against them would be extinguished without a second thought by the ridiculously powerful US military.

This shows such a profound lack of understanding of how anything works. The shitty US military consists of a few hundred thousand people who rely on the rest of the country to operate. If there was a popular movement in US against the regime then the military couldn't do much about it. In fact, if you weren't ignorant of your own history then you'd know that such a movement existed back in the 1930s during the great depression. That's what resulted in the New Deal being created to appease the people and prevent a revolution. When millions of working class people organize then change happens. When people like you pretend that nothing can be done atrocities continue.

The only one fucking stupid here is the guy who is utterly ignorant of history or how social change works in practice. You're absolutely right that arguing with you is pointless, you're uneducated and you confidently believe absurdities.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No such movement can grow large enough to pose a threat without being extinguished along the way. This country is built to prevent that from happening. Sure its happened before elsewhere, but what about all the times it failed and countless people died in the process.

But no, I'm responsible for the deaths of thousands because I'm not risking my life fighting a losing battle.

I'm laughing at you thinking that your oligarch owned media is somehow more objective than state media, the fact that you don't even know how to spell CPC says a lot about the information diet you consume.

I have access to other countries' media, unlike Chinese citizens. I also have the ability to determine how biased information is. I'm not automatically brainwashed by propaganda just because I live here. If I was, I would be far less willing to admit how awful this country is. Also CCP, Chinese communist party. What is wrong about that? CPC means cost per click.