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[–] TheGoldenPineapples@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I feel like their issue is that they have no actually cohesive tactic when it comes to playing out from the back.

Their defenders seem to have no clue about pressing triggers; committing the man not, the ball and general speed.

Their tactic seems to be to receive the ball from Onana, then knock it about at the back for a bit, get pressed, go back to Onana and keep doing that over and over again until they end up lumping it long and conceding possession.

Onana isn't the problem, at least in terms of playing out from the back. ten Hag has utterly failed to teach them an actual playing-out-from-the-back strategy worth learning.

In terms of actual goalkeeping, he's far too suspect, especially in one-on-ones.

[–] D1794@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All true, how we take the ball off him is an issue in building up. But i think even with the lack of press resisting knowledge when playing out, that ain't what is getting Onana in hot water, it's your other point which is basic goalkeeping.

  • should've given away a pen vs Wolves which likely would've cost us 2 points

  • Terrible for Forest's 2nd goal, just falls over

  • Howler for Bayern's 1st goal

  • Brentford's goal goes straight through him

  • Arguably could've done better with Zaha's goal

And then the hospital pass to Casemiro for Galatasaray's penalty which put us down to 10 men and effectively cost us the game. Lots of other keepers do shit like this in times during the season, but for the good GKs they're rare mistakes.

[–] audienceandaudio@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He was also terrible for Icardi's winner, just falls on the floor.

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