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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The way I see it, this is just life on our planet. The food chain is a fact of life and trying to deny that is silly.

That said I want animals to be treated humanely and killed without suffering.

I respect the hell out of people that can be vegetarian, but I don't judge people for eating meat.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People don't deny the food chain, maybe they deny just one thing less :)

We're not in the wild anymore, struggling for day-to-day survival. We buy packaged food in supermarkets.

And wether that food contains vegetables or body parts is our choice. Both are equally available, equally tasty, equally priced, equally healthy.

I certainly won't condemn native tribes living their life. I just believe that with greater power comes greater responsibility.

[–] HandwavyHeisenberg@feddit.de -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yet our bodies have barely evolved over the last tens of thousands of years. In that regard equal health of all options is a very bold claim. Just as a vegan dog is not a healthy dog, many of the replacements you mention seem insufficient to me.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd be surprised if any significant part of your diet resembles what we evolved to. Our food has been bred for taste and sweetness, and lately also to optimize storage, transport and mostly profit. Instead of seasonal variations we get the same food all year around. Instead of regional food, we consume food grown all over the globe. We consume too much and move too little. But the real scare is we eat too much veggies?

Millions of people, entire cultures even, live on a vegetarian or vegan diet. Including high performing athletes. It's certainly possible.

On the other hand, millions of people live on an omnivore diet so bad it makes them sick.

I'm not saying one is good, the other is bad. It's obviously possible to live a healthy life either way (which was my initial intent in brevity), and it is possible to live an unhealthy life either way. Living meat-free in itself is as healthy or unhealthy as living meat-eating. It depends on how you do it.

[–] HandwavyHeisenberg@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

You‘re absolutely right. Trying for a more healthy and balanced diet is obviously the way to go. Seasonal and local sources are a perfect goal, also when it comes to the carbon footprint of your lifestyle.

For the vast majority of people out there, reducing their meat consumption is the first apparent issue to tackle.

I do agree with the many benefits of less meat: the ecological standpoint, the nutritional value, the animal wellbeing, the cost…

The key difference is that my conclusion don’t reach as far as yours seam to do.

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