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The bartender asks "Do all three of you want a beer?"

The first logician says "I don't know".

The second logician says "I don't know."

The third logician says "Yes."

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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (18 children)

For this joke to logically work, logicians must be weird people who always know whether they want a beer or not. Because if it happened that the first guy just hadn't made his mind up yet, then the third guy's conclusion could be wrong.

[–] joku415@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They all had made up their mind. You don't need to know the others decision to answer No to the question, but you do to say yes. If the first didn't want a beer they could definitively answer no. They did, but didn't know the others decisions so couldn't say yes. Same with the 2nd. The third could say yes because he knew the other two didn't say no, so whatever they wanted was the answer

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

OCs point was that if the first person hadn't made up their mind yet, that would also cause them to say "i don't know", but the two following logicians seem to assume that the first person said "i don't know" because they wanted it but didn't know if the other two did

It's a false dichotomy and faulty logic if you look too closely

But it's a pretty funny joke

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

If he has not made a mind, he does not want beer. He might want beer few moments later, but at the moment of answering the question, he does not. That's what my logic tells me.

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Hmm, that's true, if the question is if all three in this moment wants a beer, then not knowing if you want it means that you don't currently want it in the strictest sense 🤔

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is a good point, but I'll move the goalposts very slightly and suggest that human brains are capable of wanting something without knowing that they want something. For example, if you say you don't know whether you want a beer, and then the person next to you orders a beer, then at that moment, you might realize that you really did want a beer before.

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

Wait are they bears or humans

[–] bushvin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Logicians is the keyword here… There are only 2 possible answers: yes (true) or no (false)

In logic there is no other option

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