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[–] NoiseColor@startrek.website -5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

If we had started, but we didn't.

It is not the only source like that at all. It is way easier, cheaper, faster and sustainable to build windmills where the is constant wind, solar cells where there is a lot of sun, hydro where there is... Energy sources should be built depending on the locality so they complement each other.

This kind of talking in absolutes like some of you are doing is just plain wrong and it does disservice to advocacy for nuclear power.

[–] bric@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, but the second best time is today. We can't let what we should have done stop us from doing what should be done.

And for other sources, wind and solar are great sources of energy that should be a supplement, but sometimes the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine, and we don't currently have the battery technology to store energy on the scale to handle those fluctuations. We need a stable backup, and nuclear is by far the best clean and stable energy source.

[–] NoiseColor@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Another person with the incredible wisdom to tell me the is no sun during the night. Thank you sir!

I'll make it quick: Reducing carbon emissions is urgent. Building nuclear plants takes time, is expensive. There is no capacity to build enough to offset any carbon, not to mention building them produces carbon emissions. Plus many are even scheduled to be closed.

Building something that will make a difference 20 years from now is smart, but if it comes at the expense of what is urgent today, it is very very dumb.

[–] bric@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Solar not working during the night is going to keep being a relevant point until we have the capability to manage it, your sarcasm doesn't do anything to refute that point. There are plenty of cool ways that scientists and engineers are working on solving those problems with better energy storage, but it's all still in the experimental stages, and until I see build out timelines for energy storage on national scales, all of the variable output power solutions will be nonstarters for fossil fuel replacement. You say that we can't wait 20 years for nuclear reactors, but we also can't wait 20 years to figure out how to build a big battery. We don't even know what the carbon emissions or time costs of whatever we decide on will be, but we do know that working nuclear reactors are a thing today.

I'm not against solar or wind, I have solar panels on my house right now, but it has only reduced my reliance on the fossil fuel grid, it's nowhere close to replacing it

Plus many are even scheduled to be closed.

Then don't! I kind of see your point about not building new reactors, even if I disagree, but what purpose could closing existing plants possibly have? How is that going to save carbon and reduce fossil fuels??

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