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65% of U.S. adults say the way the president is elected should be changed so that the winner of the popular vote nationwide wins the presidency.

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[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 168 points 1 year ago (43 children)

It'd be nice to go beyond and have some sort of ranked voting while we're at it. Essentially being forced to pick between two parties or risk having your vote being wasted sucks.

[–] Kerred@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

For anyone living in Utah, a bill to enable Ranked Choice voting will be in November 2023.

So anyone there please register to vote sooner rather than later.

Currently people are being told it's too confusing and too liberal, so they really could be more young people votes to help the cause.

[–] Pectin8747@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

RCV is a rebrand of the voting method IRV, which was used by many cities in the early 20th century. Due to inconsistent results, it was repealed. So, unfortunately, conservatives have a leg to stand on when they attack RCV.

For clarity: their specific attacks take things to the extreme and often have some racist underpinnings, but there is a kernel of truth to attacking specifically on the method itself.

That is why I support something like STAR voting, it doesn't suffer from many of RCV's issues

I wish your ballot measure luck however, because at the end of the day it still is, mildly better than FPTP

[–] Kerred@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish for something like STAR as well, but much like voting now it's all about the lesser of two evils between current voting and anything besides the current voting method haha

[–] Pectin8747@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well the thing about that is, RCV has been repealed in 6 states and counting for producing poor results. And it's also given right wing groups like the heritage foundation a foothold to attack it. I'm actually seeing negative RCV sentiment on the ground when I talk to people about STAR so their message is spreading. When I explain STAR and how it fixes several of RCVs issues they come around to it, so it may in fact be better to push that instead of tag along with RCV if it's going to end up being a waste of political capital

[–] Kerred@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neat! I am all for that? What are the left or rights views on STAR currently?

[–] Pectin8747@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I don't see it being on the radar of the major parties at the moment. RCV is in the spotlight so far. But that can change very soon because in Eugene, Oregon this week they are finishing up getting STAR on the ballot for their elections, then they're also pushing for it to appear on the state ballot in May. The effort is led by non-partisan groups like the equal vote coalition.

So far my conversations with both sides of the aisle have been fruitful, and I hope that is how it continues

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