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edit: seems like some people interpret “full of” as a mathematical majority which, while it may or might not be true instance to instance, isn’t my intent in posting

feel free to swap in “has a lot of” if that’s more familiar language to you :)

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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 days ago (7 children)

yeah :( exactly. this conversation was about voting suppression and somehow you immediately jumped to the assumption that me recognizing that there’s an oppressed minority of good people (INCLUDING TRANS FOLKS BY THE WAY) who have by and large been kept from democratic self-determination through systemic forces means…

(shuffles chronically online internet argument deck)

that i want to ignore trans rights?

for the record, no, i believe the opposite. i believe that my trans neighbors (and family, fyi) in the south exist and are worthy of recognition and support, in spite of the voting bloc they are surrounded by and historically been kept from engaging with.

i hope this is informative and corrects your misconstruals. you are shadow boxing against a position that i don’t think anyone here has. feel free to ask any questions as i am willing to give the benefit of the doubt that this was an honest misunderstanding.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Feel free to ask me any questions as well, since I'm gathering you still didn't read anything I wrote.

I actually thought you were interested in having a discussion for a minute and not just indignantly misinterpreting everything to take offense at.

I'll say it one more time: ignoring a culture war being fought against you doesn't make it go away, even if it's just a proxy for a class war. Southerners are fully capable of making informed decisions, and at some point you just stop having sympathy for the ones who could choose to be better but don't. It sucks that some people can't choose and get hurt along the way too. Maybe the misinformed will eventually hurt themselves hard enough to stop fighting a culture war against the disenfranchised at someone else's behest, but I don't have a lot of sympathy for those that choose to hurt others.
An oppressed minority still means that there's an oppressive majority who voted to hurt themselves.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Southerners are fully capable of making informed decisions, and at some point you just stop having sympathy for the ones who could choose to be better but don’t.

There’s another confusion! I don’t know where you got the idea that this post was about sympathy for bad people when explicitly it talks about good people in the post. Super important! This is about solidarity across class lines. I would never and have never denied this and all of my comments here reflect that.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Because your post was about the people in the south who didn't want this, and you held up the ignorant and misinformed as an example?

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