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[–] Plaidboy@sh.itjust.works 134 points 2 days ago (56 children)

Wish we got a more complete understanding of the truckers' side in this article - why is it so hard to turn off your engine instead of idling?

The guy quoted in the article says that some trucks need to operate their lift gates 15 or 20 times in a day. First of all, turn on your engine to operate the gate and then turn it off when you're done... Secondly, if it is impacting business too much to take that extra time to turn the engine on and off, invest in an auxiliary power source to operate the lift gate.

Maybe I'm missing something?

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 132 points 2 days ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (28 children)

Former trucker. If it's hot or cold AF it sucks not having a or heat. If it's a hot day, it's way hotter on blacktop surrounded by hot engines.

It can be a pain to turn it on and off a bunch of times per day, I know it sounds minor, but when you're trying to keep track of a bunch of things, making sure the right cargo comes off or on in the right order in the right way, hitting multiple docks or stops in quick succession. Trying to claim the space you need and trip plan (a lot of people don't realize how difficult it can be to get a truck through a city, especially East Coast cities).

Then you get somewhere and hop out of your truck to check in, thinking it will take 30 seconds. Talk to whomever you may need to, clear obstacles and eyeball the space you need to get your trailer into. You'll run into clueless, apathetic and just all around useless fucks at every corner. The sort of people that make glaciers seem on point. 30 seconds can turn into 30 minutes real quick.

It's a tough gig, and having an army of mercenary profit driven people out there looking to make a buck off the guy delivering literally everything you need to survive that's not air (and sometimes even that too) is kinda bullshit.

Edit: I'm not endorsing excessive idling, just trying to give some perspective on why a driver may fail to turn it off.

And also that a policy that pays anyone to report it is suspect at best. Where are we drawing the line on that? Jaywalking? What about immigration? Who's to say I can't start a company that surveils and informs for profit? It's a slippery damn slope with nothing nice at the bottom. Enforcement should be done with paid public servants, full stop.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 4 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

To add to this as a Diesel mechanic,

Diesel engines are designed to operate continuously for the most part, the most wear and tear on the engines happen during start up and shut down.

They take large batteries and more effort to start so repeatedly doing that over and over in short intervals will lead to flat batteries and burnt out starter motors

Diesel engines run most efficiently I.e less pollution and better fuel economy when warm, cold engines cause more soot etc.

The engines wear poorly and develope carbon deposits from stop start operations too increasing fuel consumption and NOX emissions.

Lastly but certainly not the end of it is most Diesel trucks have what's known as a turbo timer, this keeps the engine running 2 minutes or more depending on settings after the ignition is turned off.

This allows oil flow around the turbo and prevents unnecessary heat damage to components.

Certainly if i applied some thought to this i could come up with more reasons and others could argue against but that's what I've got to say on the matter

[–] AnalogousFortune@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Thanks for this perspective!!

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